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08-09-2009, 09:09 PM
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Hi bro,
Regarding Shibuya & those pictures that you see in those XXX hostess preview shop, most of the native Japanese gals caters to locals or japanese speaking guys only. There are some OKT (met one who is chinese ) operating on the streets and who try to pass off PRC for a "Japanese gal" aka copy version who are very well trained and speak japanese fluently when they know you are a foreigner. He charges 15000- 20000 Yen. Late last year, I have been approached by one while cruising around Asiabar & music-hall area and i found this out after asking a OKT. Please be forewarn!! As i am aware that even if you could pass off as a "japanese" when dealing with some OKT, when you get to the hotel and the japanese gal starts to converse with you and found out that you are not local/jap speaking. She may inform the OKT. The best way is to get a local to set it up for you. Just wanted you all not to be fooled. Its expansive to pay that much and found out you just had a PRC. Take care. Sorry if i contradict what the previous bro said. 
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#152
08-09-2009, 09:41 PM
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Get someone who lives in Japan, they should be able to tell the diff. Usually PRC are the cheapest boink you can get here...IMHO find a local or someone who lives in Japan and speaks Japanese if you plan to play the field. Usually PRC do not have issues serving gaijins in my experience. Its the locals who have issues serving gaijins. Lets put it this way i'd wouldn't trust any OKT when my money is concerned.
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#153
10-09-2009, 11:47 AM
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hi bros, sory to butt in. will be going to hokaido in oct, returning to sin via nagoya. have 1 night in nagoya on the 13th night. any bros working there can go cheoing together? thanks
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#155
15-09-2009, 12:44 PM
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#158
20-09-2009, 08:18 PM
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Hi, all bros,
Just wonder you can help. I go to Japan quite often, but honestly, no luck so far. I think it is going to be a good business for any OKT to spot this demand. I am just wondering any bro has any good OKT contact to introduce? I would prefer to call the Jap girl to come up to my hotel as I always stay in a decent hotel. Anyone can share? I think if we manage to get one decent OKT (not those introducing Chinese), it will be a good business case for them! Cheers.
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#159
05-10-2009, 03:18 PM
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First of all, would like to clarify to all the brothers that this posting is not about my experience in cheonging in Japan - there had been enough postings in the thread by the brothers to say that the success rate by foreigners in having success with Japanese ladies is dismal and so I did not even try. So, this is my read from my recent experiences in Japan to try to understand the Japanese and in turn try to explain why our business in soaplands etc is not welcomed. I would like to qualify that this is my unqualified read and so if there are any Japanese brothers reading this or those more schooled in the Japanese ways - and they disagree with my views - I stand corrected.
First of all, as all of you know, the Japanese are a very proud people and they essentially think people of all other races - white or otherwise, are inferior. They are the only people I have come across (and there may be others) who treat their own better than other races whereas we still see people in some countries (including our beloved Singapore) feel that the white race is more superior - legacy of our colonial heritage which refuses to die for some. As such, the women feel that offering sexual services to non-Japanese are demeaning. They feel that we are dirty, not culturallly schooled in their ways (hence their thumbing noses when we act idiots in their public baths) and hence we can take our business and shove it. They are a people who seemed to be very moulded and constrained by the expectations of society and the fear of scorn from society for being non-compliant is worse than the threat of any fine or punitive measure. Hence you see them behaving and acting in accordance of the expectations of society - sure there are the token social deviants but not many. They are courteous to an extent which is admirable - use of mobile phones is prohibited on trains, subways, public places because "they are annoying your neighbour". And so they, especially the women text a great deal. The only one encounter which seemed to be the exception to courteous behaviour is the crush-hour traffic in the subways where everyone pushes, shoves, crushes and get crushed in return and no one seemed to be bothered - again, because society tells them that this exception is allowed. I did not notice any luckless young lady being groped in the process like we see in the AV movies. Then again I was not fortunate enough to have one sweet young thing back her butt into my dee-dee which would have been nice. My command of Japanese is atrocious but a the same time I found out that they would prefer to tolerate my attempt to speak with must be painful to their ears than to speak to me in English. I came to the conclusion that they (first of all are proud of their language) and next do not want to place themselves in an awkward position of misinforming or misleading you by telling you something which was the result of a breakdown in communication - they would rather that you make that mistake of not understanding them. Then again my experience has been attempting to speak to them in their language can go a long way. You can dislike them but you cannot but respect them for what they are and what they have accomplished. Our beloved government once wanted us to learn and behave llke the Japanese to be more courteous - nice try, this was not the result of some campaign but their behaviour had been moulded by generations and generations of social schooling. So, my brothers - if you can figure how to get around what my unqualified dissertation is - then you can get a few steps closer to scoring. By the way, am sure all of you know that only a small proportion of Japanese ladies have knockers like their AV sisters. But I must say that at least 70% of them are dropdead gorgeous to being very pleasant. Only the balance 30% is ahem.... more challenging.
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#160
06-10-2009, 02:46 AM
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Search for Tokyo pink guide for info.
In Tokyo most of the place only take in Japanese. The following escort site cater for foreigners www.clubboo.com www.asiamystique.com Enjoy and send in feedbacks
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#161
06-10-2009, 02:49 AM
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06-10-2009, 10:34 AM
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[I won't go as far as saying success rate in Japan is dismal but it takes a lot more effort to understand the nuances of japanese culture, more so than what it seems on the surface (or at least in those AVs). In fact, your so-mentioned racial supremacy is also pre-dominant in several other places, e.g. in France, in Germany and even Korea. Try to see where being a foreigner gets you in these places...and you know what i mean. So it is not unique to merely Japan, or perhaps you are only drawing reference to the Soaplands? (or sexual servicing, which in large part is just a minute facet of japanese life).
Yes, i guess you arent wrong to say that japanese are rather superficial. That is akin to saying the french are arrogant, americans ignorant, singaporeans kiasu...etc. But i have also met nice japanese folks along the way. So dont fret, maybe you are just not meeting the right people thus far in Japan (Tokyo can be quite a challenge, just like any other big city). But if you are talking about the social scene - i.e. dating a local japanese, i got to admit this is tough since japan is largely a homogenous country. However, many japs have travelled overseas (some extensively), have lived overseas or studied there, so my question posed is - are you referring to the correct demographic that will be attracted to a well-travelled, articulate singaporean gentleman like yourself? And truth be said, many Japs are shy by nature, so this can be easily misconstrued as being cold/arrogant/ignorant but that is for you to deal with. Nothing that cannot be solved with a little wit and charm here and there. (and of course, very importantly, being fashionable always always helps). I think the real challenge to thrive in any country, is to always think from the point of view of a local and adapt to the local way of life, rather than impose your own cultural yardstick on everyone else. Simply put, when in Rome, live and breathe like the Romans. Thats when you get the most of your overseas postings. By the way, i am living in Tokyo (quarter japanese too), so i guess i do have some facts to back up what i have mentioned thus far. Take it easy. QUOTE=NormalDick;4168884]First of all, would like to clarify to all the brothers that this posting is not about my experience in cheonging in Japan - there had been enough postings in the thread by the brothers to say that the success rate by foreigners in having success with Japanese ladies is dismal and so I did not even try. So, this is my read from my recent experiences in Japan to try to understand the Japanese and in turn try to explain why our business in soaplands etc is not welcomed. I would like to qualify that this is my unqualified read and so if there are any Japanese brothers reading this or those more schooled in the Japanese ways - and they disagree with my views - I stand corrected. First of all, as all of you know, the Japanese are a very proud people and they essentially think people of all other races - white or otherwise, are inferior. They are the only people I have come across (and there may be others) who treat their own better than other races whereas we still see people in some countries (including our beloved Singapore) feel that the white race is more superior - legacy of our colonial heritage which refuses to die for some. As such, the women feel that offering sexual services to non-Japanese are demeaning. They feel that we are dirty, not culturallly schooled in their ways (hence their thumbing noses when we act idiots in their public baths) and hence we can take our business and shove it. They are a people who seemed to be very moulded and constrained by the expectations of society and the fear of scorn from society for being non-compliant is worse than the threat of any fine or punitive measure. Hence you see them behaving and acting in accordance of the expectations of society - sure there are the token social deviants but not many. They are courteous to an extent which is admirable - use of mobile phones is prohibited on trains, subways, public places because "they are annoying your neighbour". And so they, especially the women text a great deal. The only one encounter which seemed to be the exception to courteous behaviour is the crush-hour traffic in the subways where everyone pushes, shoves, crushes and get crushed in return and no one seemed to be bothered - again, because society tells them that this exception is allowed. I did not notice any luckless young lady being groped in the process like we see in the AV movies. Then again I was not fortunate enough to have one sweet young thing back her butt into my dee-dee which would have been nice. My command of Japanese is atrocious but a the same time I found out that they would prefer to tolerate my attempt to speak with must be painful to their ears than to speak to me in English. I came to the conclusion that they (first of all are proud of their language) and next do not want to place themselves in an awkward position of misinforming or misleading you by telling you something which was the result of a breakdown in communication - they would rather that you make that mistake of not understanding them. Then again my experience has been attempting to speak to them in their language can go a long way. You can dislike them but you cannot but respect them for what they are and what they have accomplished. Our beloved government once wanted us to learn and behave llke the Japanese to be more courteous - nice try, this was not the result of some campaign but their behaviour had been moulded by generations and generations of social schooling. So, my brothers - if you can figure how to get around what my unqualified dissertation is - then you can get a few steps closer to scoring. By the way, am sure all of you know that only a small proportion of Japanese ladies have knockers like their AV sisters. But I must say that at least 70% of them are dropdead gorgeous to being very pleasant. Only the balance 30% is ahem.... more challenging.[/QUOTE]
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06-10-2009, 11:59 AM
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07-10-2009, 12:10 AM
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For the real Japanese dishes your best bet is to call one of the companies that cater to foreigners listed below and mentioned by other Bros. Avoid picking ads from magazines or Yellow book, as these are 100% of time 'bait-n-switch'. Quick guide to each one (I used them several times as I travel to TKO every other month):
Club Boo Line-up does not change much, ie the same girls I had 2 years ago are still there. Not a full service outfit, but you can change that for additional tip. Variety of looks and characters, but most due to time-in now jaded www.asiamystique.com Solid performance, best price in town, but if you are looking for Miss Japan, move on. These are very average girls, but provide good service and for what you would consider a reasonable price in TKO. Occassionally, you will get a hot one, but these usually make a quick stop at AS on the way to some greener pasture. NASTY DOLLS -TOP- This is completely hit/miss, but I had a good string of luck. Miss Japan can occassionally be found there (or approximation of her). The trouble with this agency is that it is difficult to book (call at around noon, as soon as they open), so most of the time you call and there is nothing on the menu. Good luck and enjoy. More tid-bits about TKO when I have a minute.
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#165
21-10-2009, 06:11 PM
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Re: Japan
A bit more to add to the choice for Japan, and Tokyo specifically. Kabukichō is a name that is known to most, but not necessarily all of that due to the usual restrictions (race) used for admissions to some. I have been knocking around there with my Japanese office mates for a while now, so I hope this helps with your adventures. Topics covered: strip club, Japanese hostess club, and Taiwanese hostess club. On with the story.
Strip clubs are mostly frequented by expats, out-of-towners, and occasionally locals who what to look at different shape/size and skin. These employ hodge-podge of talent, but mostly imported, with occasional JP girl. The setup is pretty much like most of the strip joints, and the game is private dance where you can engage check all the assets without any restriction, and on occasion get a BJ is chemistry is right. For particulars, you are seated, they bring the girls to chat with you, you buy them drinks to get coupons which you place in your mouth, and when you are laying on your back, on the stage, they extract the coupon using their neh-neh, or sometimes the bottom parts. Simple setup. For private dance, you will be propositioned by the girl that sits with you, so no need to run around and ask for it. Not my cup of tea, but some Bros may like this light duty, so enjoy. Japanese hostess clubs, the ones with real local girls, are for locals, but not completely exclusive as explained below. The girls are usually students, some housemakers, between the jobs, with part time jobs, etc. They are nice girls and they are not there to give you a blowjob under the table or head to love hotel for a screw, but to keep you company, converse, and run up your bill while you are getting drunk with your buddies. I was introduced to couple of them by my co-workers, so I can go there (and did that couple times) on my own and get admitted, but I have not seen any other AngMo's there, or any other people other than Japanese for that matter. If you have a bit of language skill you can try, politely, and the worst that happens is that you will get polite no in return. Why would anyone bother with this? Well, I went there ones and was chatting with a girl in JP comixed with English (that was a pain only eased by alcohol), and she asked me to meet her after work in a coffee shop up the street. I did, and we went out to drink some more, and ended up going back to my place and screwing until wee hours of the morning. No money was exchanged and it was a great night, and the hangover lasted for next two days, so there is something to be had there. For the last bit, Taiwanese hostess club. Well, they dress like locals, speak Japanese, and are handpicked to look like Japanese, but they are from Taiwan. Standard fare, you go in, chat for a bit and have a drink, than off to love hotel for 20,000 Yen exit fee (add 5,000 Yen for hotel), for 2 hour session. Not a bargain for us here, but pretty decent price for Tokyo. You can also take them home (the 2 hours are yours to use any way you like, but you need to give the girl money for cab so she can come back to the bar), which I did, but it's all same-same. How to get there and research these topics on your own? I usually live close to Yamanote line, so Y-line (green) to Shinju-ku, use Kabukichō exit, and once outside get across a small square to the other side of the street. Down that street, cross another one, and keep going down the hill until you reach the end of it (ie, the street starts climbing again). Total distance, about 100 meters. This is a straight shot from exit all the way down, other than crossing 2 streets, and all items described are located near the intersection at the bottom of the hill. Strip joint is to the right with a black sign, and with English on it. JP hostess bars are next to it but there is a boatload of them and they have an attendant in the front. There is even more higher than the ground level, but I guess my mates are too lazy, so we usually go for the closest ones and on the street level. For Taiwanese, it is to the left 15 meters, but it is up on the second floor, and sorry but describing how to find it is beyond me. I know where it is and can get there, but fear not, as they do have criers that will ask you to come in to this and other places with Taiwanese girls (they will tell you they are Japanese, but you already know they are not). Oh, one last one, for the criers, DO NOT engage with Nigerians, and only answer to Japanese. Hope you enjoy.
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