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13-07-2005, 02:39 PM
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Keep the postings coming bro! I'm sure those bros who already subscribed to Straits Times will understand and appreciate your effort.. but instead of contributing money, all I can do here right now would be to up your points! And just to clarify, for the sake of transparency, there is no Boss or Towkay in this thread.. just bros with questions and bros with answers/findings.. no such thing as wasting bandwidth.. since as long as it benefits anyone, all posts are relevant... Kudos to you bro! Keep up the good work! And don't hesitate to drop by Shanghai and join in the "festivities" happening all around town all year round! There are regular gatherings of bros here led by the great Bro SGP69 and gang (Ultraman, WhamBamTYM, Maverick, Junior_cannibal.. just to name a few... ) Cheerio~! BLAND 
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13-07-2005, 05:45 PM
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May be if following were changed to, Davinder Singh: Did you have any relationship with Ms Chua in terms of sex? T.T. Durai: Yes. Davinder Singh: When was the relationship was that? T.T. Durai: I helped her to - she was involved in setting up a company known as Global Net Relations in 2000. Then I think it can be posted here liao. Paiseh, Paiseh!
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13-07-2005, 11:11 PM
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You will mastered enough points for Uncle sam to zap.... Cheers
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#169
14-07-2005, 03:59 PM
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I think you will have to include some sex related topic in this thread, fyi, I re-quoted the above to the NKF discuss thread, kena big boss zapped 7 points. Rather those have submitted there, all kena zapped. Paiseh!
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#170
14-07-2005, 04:35 PM
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Thanks for the reminder.. hmm.. let me see.. we're all about locations and stuff.. let's try this: Hi Bros! Anyone knows where "adult" toys can be bought? Any type in particular has been tried and tested? What are the "effects"? Some bros will have GFs who are into Kinky stuff.. any nice contributions for this thread? Points will be awarded whenever possible.. hahaha.. How's that for a start? Still inline with Views and Reviews but with Sexual content.. this should keep the thread afloat? hehehe.. Looking forward to all your postings bro! Maybe we'll be able to try out some "suggestions" as well.. hahaha Cheerio~! BLAND...
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14-07-2005, 05:38 PM
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Where the they said "adult toys" or " condom shops " ? hmmm.....  Boring, sickening hot summer !!!!
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14-07-2005, 05:44 PM
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Hi Bro ChinaAlleWay, I've seen a few "Adult" shops in Shanghai but have not checked out what they sell... the last time I went into one was in another province.. but being a small town, maybe the "range" is not as comprehensive? Not too sure.. please provide more info.. Cheerio~! BLAND...
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14-07-2005, 06:41 PM
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We fellow singaporean overseas shld try to benefit singaporeans...团结就是力量
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14-07-2005, 06:49 PM
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Continuation of yesterday....
July 14, 2005 NKF saga: Calls for full transparency By Salma Khalik HEALTH CORRESPONDENT THE National Kidney Foundation began its day yesterday with graffiti splashed on its walls - and by 5.30pm, more than 3,800 of its regular donors had stopped their contributions Calls for NKF chief T. T. Durai's resignation took concrete form in an online petition started by full-time national serviceman Lawrence Tan, garnering over 18,000 signatures as at midnight. Public outrage reached an unprecedented scale, with The Straits Times newsroom inundated with hundreds of e-mail messages and dozens of calls to its hotline. Readers were angry at the size of chief executive officer Durai's salary and his perks, as well as how the NKF had misled the public on the number of years its reserves will last and the number of patients it treats. But even as vitriol was poured on Singapore's biggest charity, calmer voices pointed out that there were kidney patients in need of donations - and that the episode should not diminish contributions to charity. Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan told The Straits Times yesterday the NKF must provide more information and explain its actions to regain the public's confidence. 'The key to gaining confidence is full transparency.' But he made it clear he will continue donating to charity, whether it is to the NKF, ComChest or others 'because there are people out there who can benefit from it'. In court this week, the NKF admitted to having $260 million in reserves, enough to subsidise dialysis treatment for 30 years at the current subsidy rates - not the three years it has consistently maintained. Mr Khaw, who had spoken in support of the NKF when it maintained that three years was how long its reserves would last, had this advice for the NKF yesterday: 'If there was bad judgment, then acknowledge it and move on.' Politicians like MP Chong Weng Chiew echoed Mr Khaw's call for greater transparency, in particular, its expenditure 'on publicity, manpower, administration and patients'. He also wants to know how the NKF assesses patients for subsidies, as he had been approached many times by kidney-failure patients who had been rejected by the NKF. The issue of transparency was a key plank in The Straits Times' defence against the defamation suit brought on by NKF and Mr Durai. Among other things, SPH's lawyer, Mr Davinder Singh, spoke of the difficulty of getting the NKF to disclose that Mr Durai earned more than half a million dollars a year and how, contrary to its oft-stated position, he had travelled first class. The NKF withdrew its suit against Singapore Press Holdings and journalist Susan Long on Tuesday. Lawyers for the two parties met again at a hearing in Justice Tan Lee Meng's chambers to address the issue of costs yesterday. The matter has been adjourned to Monday. It was Ms Long's article published on April 19 last year that was the subject of contention, particularly its opening paragraphs which reported lavish toilet fittings in the bathroom of the CEO's private office. Before withdrawing the suit on Tuesday, Mr Durai admitted in court that the article was fair and accurate and told reporters after the hearing that he would not resign 'unless the people want him to'. Non-constituency MP Steve Chia said yesterday Mr Durai should resign as 'he has lost his moral authority to ask for money'. NKF staff, however, are standing by their chief. Ms Michelle Ang, NKF's deputy director of corporate communications, said: 'They are still solidly behind him and know the high degree of his commitment to NKF.'
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14-07-2005, 06:51 PM
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This guy is so heong...go and vandalise NKF building....
July 14, 2005 HQ's walls smeared with abuse Staff paint over the graffiti against CEO at NKF building; donors condemn vandalism By Khushwant Singh VANDALS daubed the white perimeter walls of the National Kidney Foundation (NKF) building with abuse early yesterday morning. Spray-painted in red were the words 'liar' and 'Hang Turi', referring to NKF chief executive T.T. Durai. 'Big liar' and 'Durai cheats heaven' were also painted in Chinese on the wall. Police received a call at 5.20am and a police car was dispatched to the NKF building at 81, Kim Keat Road. Maintenance staff started painting over the graffiti at about 7am. A defaced signboard was covered with newspapers and a yellow piece of cloth. By 9am, the wall had been fully painted over. NKF's deputy director of corporate communications Michelle Ang said guards deployed inside the NKF premises did not see the vandals. She added that the foundation was deluged with abusive calls on Tuesday in the wake of revelations about Mr Durai's salary, travel habits and job perks. Many donors have expressed their anger and disappointment by cancelling donations, but all were united in their condemnation of the vandals. The penalty for vandalism is a fine of up to $2,000 or jail of up to three years, and between three and eight strokes of the cane. Store-owner Teoh Kah Chay, 71, a regular donor for more than 10 years, said: 'Stop donating but don't vandalise, because NKF will have to spend its money on repairs and not on patients.' He intends to cancel his $15 monthly donation through his credit card and will restart only after Mr Durai resigns
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14-07-2005, 06:52 PM
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The Taiwanese here are very coersived... we got to be like them.... But not they hkeys . Hee...hee....
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14-07-2005, 06:53 PM
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For the benefits of our Samster donors who might want to discontinue their donation...Pls refer to the number below...
July 14, 2005 3,800 cancel monthly donations NKF sets up hotline for those wanting to cancel credit card donations SEVERAL thousand upset supporters of the National Kidney Foundation (NKF) yesterday cancelled their monthly donations to the charity. Bank call centres, branches and Internet platforms as well as the charity itself were swamped by donors disenchanted by the revelations from the court this week. The NKF said that by 5.30pm, 3,800 people had cancelled donations, some by contacting the foundation directly but many others - an estimated 2,350 - through their banks. The NKF had to set up a hotline for people wanting to cancel their credit card donations, after banks could not help their customers. That was because credit card donation transactions were agreements between the NKF and individuals. Now those who want to end these credit card arrangements can call 1800-351-5435, fax their request to 6253-0417 or e-mail [email protected] Several people went to the NKF headquarters to stop donating by Giro. Among them was cabby Vincent Yap, 46, who said that he and his wife had been donating $6 a month each for about six years. 'I wanted to stop the donations some time ago when I heard that they have a lot of money, but my wife stopped me,' he said. 'This time... I am stopping our donations.' A 48-year-old civil servant, who declined to be named, went to the NKF to cancel his donation after failing to get through by telephone. The man, who has given $6 a month via Giro for five years, said he made 10 calls which went unanswered. 'I am very angry with the way they handled the money. They are not transparent. I'd heard stories but now that this court case has confirmed it, I am cancelling my donation.' Systems analyst Ben Ng, 38, also went to the NKF to retrieve the $12 he donated recently. 'It's not the money. I can afford it,', he said, adding that it was the way the NKF handled donations that was not right. But it wasn't all bad news for the charity. Cabby Teo Kwee Lock, 57, gave $5.80 after receiving an NKF appeal via SMS. 'They do their part and I do my part. If they misuse their funds, they will have to answer to God,' he said. 'If everybody doesn't give, what will happen to the poor people?' Those who want to end these credit card arrangements can call 1800-351-5435, fax their request to 6253-0417 or e-mail [email protected]
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14-07-2005, 06:55 PM
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Even CEOs of this MNC don't fly First Class AS A regular donor to the National Kidney Foundation (NKF), I would like to seek clarification and justification for the compensation package of its management team. I was stunned by the $600,000 annual compensation NKF paid its CEO, and the lavish travel perks. My previous employer was a multinational corporation with annual turnover in excess of US$80 billion. Even so, most of its regional CEOs are not entitled to travel in First Class on any flight, despite the fact that they are responsible for businesses with turnover many times that of NKF. And here we are talking about a commercial entity that generates its own revenue, without any donations from the public. For an organisation that depends on public donations, I do not agree with Mr T.T. Durai's statement that his compensation is a personal matter. The donors have the right to know how their donations are utilised. If the CEOs of public companies disclose their pay packages in annual reports in the interest of transparency, shouldn't a non-profit organisation funded by public donations be even more obliged to have high levels of disclosure and transparency? I am sure many members of the public are also curious to know what specialised skills set one must possess to manage NKF, in view of the high compensation package. Without more transparency and disclosure on how funds are deployed, I doubt I will ever donate to NKF again, knowing that my money goes towards paying the excessive pay packages of its executives. Loh Su Hui (Mdm)
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14-07-2005, 06:56 PM
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You have to read this 1...this is total crap...I think all the staffs are forced to do so....
 July 14, 2005 Staff give T.T. Durai standing ovation They and board rally around him. Patient says many would've died if not for him By Joyce Teo THE staff at the National Kidney Foundation gave chief executive T.T. Durai a standing ovation yesterday evening after he gave a short address to a packed auditorium at NKF headquarters. As he returned to work, staff and the NKF board rallied around their embattled CEO. 'He told us we have to carry on because the patients depend on us and not to let what happened to him affect us,' said NKF's deputy director of communications Michelle Ang. 'He works very hard and that's the only way anyone can run this place. He is relentless. He really does it for the patients.' She added that apart from one day of compassionate leave, he has not taken a holiday since 1992, when he became chief executive. Mr Job Loei, 41, manager of NKF's patient advancement department, has been undergoing subsidised dialysis for the past 12 years and said he owed Mr Durai his life. 'If the NKF was not around and Mr Durai not driving it, I don't think I would be here today. 'I've seen him work. It's his passion. He works seven days a week, by choice, for a larger cause.' The former pastor said Mr Durai's integrity is not in question. 'He sets very high standards. For example, when we get New Year hampers, we can't take any. They will be channelled to the poor patients.' Said NKF patient Yeo Say Ann, 36: 'If he was not around, many would have died. It's okay if the $262 million in reserves earns interest... It was always his intention to build up the reserves.' According to both staff and patients, Mr Durai believes able kidney patients should contribute to society, so they do not take donor funds for granted. Mr William Tan, 42, an NKF patient since 1997, is a case in point. Said Mr Tan: 'When I first met him in 1997 to ask for subsidies, he scolded me. He said he wouldn't lower my co-payment if I didn't work. My impression of him was very bad... But I realised he was trying to tell me not to give up on life.' Mr Durai's words pushed him to get a job and a diploma in computer studies. Added Mr Tan: 'His entire life is spent on building up the organisation. He deserves his pay.' Like Mr Tan, Mr Loei felt that Mr Durai's $25,000 pay and generous bonuses are not excessive. 'The bottom line is how many lives you have saved.' [email protected]
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14-07-2005, 06:57 PM
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Stopping donations only punishes patients I WAS riveted by the articles on the legal case between the National Kidney Foundation (NKF) and Singapore Press Holdings and the events that led to it (ST, July 12). I believe many readers, like myself, would have been properly outraged by the actions of Mr T.T. Durai, the NKF's chief executive officer. The main principle behind NKF's ceaseless efforts to raise ever more funds despite having coffers overflowing with reserves of $189 million, it would have us believe, is that every cent counts. Every Singaporean knows, thanks to NKF's publicity efforts and the perennial NKF Charity Show, that individual bills for dialysis for kidney patients can run into thousands of dollars and, thus, donations, no matter how small, are always welcome. In fact, NKF has a donation programme called Lifedrops, of which I am a participant, that allows donors to pledge a small monthly amount to its cause. The latest revelations have left me feeling a little like a fool. How many 'Life- drops', may I ask, were allowed to dribble away to fund Mr Durai's 12-month performance bonus in 2003? At the minimum amount of $5 a month, one 'Lifedrop' amounts to $60 a year. Mr Durai's bonus, at $25,000 for 12 months, comes up to $300,000. This means that approximately 5,000 well-meaning contributors like myself have done absolutely nothing to help kidney patients with our donations. Yet, the victims at the centre of all this are not us, but the kidney patients. If there is a backlash, and there surely will be one, they will be the ones who will suffer, NKF's reserves notwithstanding. Much as I would like to make a statement to NKF and cease my monthly contributions and boycott future NKF charity shows, and urge others to follow, to do so would only punish the very patients that we wanted to help in the first place. I therefore appeal for donors to keep a cool head. Let us show our displeasure in ways other than withdrawing all financial support. We may feel more than a little betrayed by NKF, but let us not betray the kidney patients. Two wrongs do not make a right. Steffen Toh Hai Chew Changzhou, China
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Sorry can't up your rep point but thats not so important..perhaps when in Shanghai...I'll buy you a drink instead.
