Hanoi

[powerpower]

Hi Bro,

Long time didn't say harlo to you!

My girl in Hanoi still thinking about me?

Time flies, it has been more a year already!

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

In summary, Fortuna is very commercialised. But for bro who :
1. are not as adventurous and dare not venture into the wilder side of town
2. who are totally unable to speak viet
3. whose entertainment are on company's account
4. whose stay is just 1 or 2 days at max 3 days
5. who do not have someone to bring them around

these people will have little choice but to check in to Fortuna to have fun.

But look at it the other way.. for the same kind of price, u could hve the same kind of fun even in Singapore.. so why bother to come all the way to Hanoi for it?

Anyway, to each his own.

Lastly, the worst move is to kenna one of those black shops, even more expensive and totally no service!

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by powerpower

Hi Bro,

Long time didn't say harlo to you!

My girl in Hanoi still thinking about me?

Time flies, it has been more a year already!

You no good lah... she keep asking me about u... you see lah, so many singapore bro here charm the girls here already then they left and long time did not come back and I kenna all the pressure here on behalf of those bro.. you better come back soon, ok? I shall arrange for her to welcome you at the airport with opened legs... erh.. i mean opened arms ;-)

Anyway, an FR.

2 nights back after dinner with some friends, they say go to Relax bar. so we went, 4 guys and calling another 2 more to join us... most of us in the group sort of know the lady boss of Relax bar on in individual basis so its a rare thing that the lady boss got to see 4~5 of her friends sitting together at 1 table.

Each one of us have sort of our regular girls there and so these girls recognise us when we sat down and they come over to keep us company. Service was good and before we left we tipped the girls VND50k each and i tipped my favourite girl there VND100k. All left happily.

The lady boss also gave each of us an invitation card for opening ceremony of Relax II which is gonna happen today. Me and some locals thinking of checking it out ;-)

Overall, i say that i am quite ok with the session unlike before and it seems that once the girls knows you are a regular, they will not pressure you so much about tips, they only scare off the first timers and green horns!

Another point to note here is that the girls can sit and chit chat with you but you are not allowed to roam them.. this is not like KTV. So if you want to enjoy a beer just before u go back to hit the sack, Relax is a good place to relax if u also can speak some vietnamese and tell a few good jokes.

[v.killers]

bro deptrai,

You must be enjoying in Hanoi hor It's been a long time since I last visit Hanoi.....9-10 years ago...Kind of missed the place Sign !!!

Cheers VK

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by v.killers

bro deptrai,

You must be enjoying in Hanoi hor It's been a long time since I last visit Hanoi.....9-10 years ago...Kind of missed the place Sign !!!

Cheers VK

then cum lor....

[powerpower]

Hanoi is a nice place for photography but too troublesome to bring girls back to hotel. I still prefer Zhuhai, no restriction, no problem communicating, most importantly plenty of choices (maciam' like king)

But I really missed the 'Ze Ca" (roadside restaurant) and the chicken rice stall that you brought me. The food was so yummy. Getting sick of Sillypore food.

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

You no good lah... she keep asking me about u... you see lah, so many singapore bro here charm the girls here already then they left and long time did not come back and I kenna all the pressure here on behalf of those bro.. you better come back soon, ok? I shall arrange for her to welcome you at the airport with opened legs... erh.. i mean opened arms ;-)

Anyway, an FR.

2 nights back after dinner with some friends, they say go to Relax bar. so we went, 4 guys and calling another 2 more to join us... most of us in the group sort of know the lady boss of Relax bar on in individual basis so its a rare thing that the lady boss got to see 4~5 of her friends sitting together at 1 table.

Each one of us have sort of our regular girls there and so these girls recognise us when we sat down and they come over to keep us company. Service was good and before we left we tipped the girls VND50k each and i tipped my favourite girl there VND100k. All left happily.

The lady boss also gave each of us an invitation card for opening ceremony of Relax II which is gonna happen today. Me and some locals thinking of checking it out ;-)

Overall, i say that i am quite ok with the session unlike before and it seems that once the girls knows you are a regular, they will not pressure you so much about tips, they only scare off the first timers and green horns!

Another point to note here is that the girls can sit and chit chat with you but you are not allowed to roam them.. this is not like KTV. So if you want to enjoy a beer just before u go back to hit the sack, Relax is a good place to relax if u also can speak some vietnamese and tell a few good jokes.

[Pink_Flyod]

Hmmm.... I wonder why lots of our brother miss Hanoi... too much hospitality from our bro dept... I guess, not the gals.

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by powerpower

Hanoi is a nice place for photography but too troublesome to bring girls back to hotel.(

I'm not sure about Hanoi scene as I've not been there yet. But in HCMC I've no problems looking for a hotel that allows Viet girl to stay overnight. In fact I've found several. The more lok cok the higher the chance. Haha. 3 Star and above hotels usually won't allow.

As Vietnam is a communist country finding P4P venues can be a frustrating task. The average joe tourist will be disadvantaged on the surface but the residents and frequent choengsters will benefit from the "camouflaged" venues away from the mainstream. These are where all the gems can be uncovered and slowly enjoyed.

It took a few trips to get the hang of finding "fun" in HCMC. Once you get the hang of it. The Viet girls will keep calling you!

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by Tony Stark

I'm not sure about Hanoi scene as I've not been there yet. But in HCMC I've no problems looking for a hotel that allows Viet girl to stay overnight. In fact I've found several. The more lok cok the higher the chance. Haha. 3 Star and above hotels usually won't allow.

As Vietnam is a communist country finding P4P venues can be a frustrating task. The average joe tourist will be disadvantaged on the surface but the residents and frequent choengsters will benefit from the "camouflaged" venues away from the mainstream. These are where all the gems can be uncovered and slowly enjoyed.

It took a few trips to get the hang of finding "fun" in HCMC. Once you get the hang of it. The Viet girls will keep calling you!

Tony has unlocked the secret of unlocking Viet cunt! Tony, you should write the book "1001 ways to unlock the Viet cunt that your teacher never taught you about!"

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

Tony has unlocked the secret of unlocking Viet cunt! Tony, you should write the book "1001 ways to unlock the Viet cunt that your teacher never taught you about!"

Haha dude everything was self taught. With the help of the vast information posted on this forum. Hope to see you in Hanoi if there's a chance. Cheers!

PS: Of course when the girls call you. Financial gains could be the biggest encouragement. Hahaha.

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Tony Stark

Haha dude everything was self taught. With the help of the vast information posted on this forum. Hope to see you in Hanoi if there's a chance. Cheers!

PS: Of course when the girls call you. Financial gains could be the biggest encouragement. Hahaha.

........ bro tony .. me have been to hanoi and hcm a couple of times but still cannot learn anything leh ... pls teach me, master ..
me grasshopper promise to be a good boy .....

last trip to hanoi didn't get to meet up with bro deptrai4u but instead meet up with bro carrot ....

[Fortress]

Originally Posted by adidas88

.... me have been to hanoi and hcm a couple of times but still cannot learn anything leh ...

I feel like that too. Tried nutz, looks happening but nothing happened... gals there all seem to be part of big grp (say 8-9 pple, machiam go zouk).. ang mors there also look like just sitting there, no one really got any luck. so admire u seniors who make things happen so easily. looks really hard for someone who does not know how to speak the language.

anyway, here's the FR for Thang Loi. Went there ard 9pm, got the VIP massage and led to a room. looks more brightly lit compared to Sakura. First thing the guy asked for tip.. so i gave hoping something hoping it would help boost chances of getting a more pretty lady.. in came one quite ok looks (6.5/10), cup probaby A/B size, couldn't really tell cos the outfit not as body hugging..

Did the routine of sauna, bathing.. and then the massage. I must say the massage is quite ok (7/10) and not just mere piano playing.. did the leg, then hand, then back and head, brushing past the sensative places a few times. then while i tot it was prob time that she would pop the GQ, she told me time is up and the routine finish, and asked for tip. Cos i was prepared to give 200k, so i stupid stupid brought that one note and LL have to give 200k even though nothing really extra happened... sigh.. not sure if i missed anything, but my opinion of here is less fun than sakura. prob also quite a problem as she did not understand a single word of english..

think its probably me and my inexperience.. been there but still never learn anything. any seniors here can give some tips? perhaps shld just go fortuna as some bros say...

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by adidas88

........ bro tony .. me have been to hanoi and hcm a couple of times but still cannot learn anything leh ... pls teach me, master ..
me grasshopper promise to be a good boy .....

Hello Mr. Lover you are the sifu leh. I haven't been to Hanoi yet. Also still got a lot to learn from your Pearl River Delta experiences. I concentrate more on Mekong Delta more lately.

I always go commando style search and destroy missions. You sure want to learn? I usually cover alot of places within one day. It's like setting booby traps. The more traps you set up the higher the chance of capturing more "enemies". Also you can choose which "enemy" to keep in captivity or which to release.

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by Fortress

I feel like that too. Tried nutz, looks happening but nothing happened... gals there all seem to be part of big grp (say 8-9 pple, machiam go zouk).. ang mors there also look like just sitting there, no one really got any luck. so admire u seniors who make things happen so easily. looks really hard for someone who does not know how to speak the language.

anyway, here's the FR for Thang Loi. Went there ard 9pm, got the VIP massage and led to a room. looks more brightly lit compared to Sakura. First thing the guy asked for tip.. so i gave hoping something hoping it would help boost chances of getting a more pretty lady.. in came one quite ok looks (6.5/10), cup probaby A/B size, couldn't really tell cos the outfit not as body hugging..

Did the routine of sauna, bathing.. and then the massage. I must say the massage is quite ok (7/10) and not just mere piano playing.. did the leg, then hand, then back and head, brushing past the sensative places a few times. then while i tot it was prob time that she would pop the GQ, she told me time is up and the routine finish, and asked for tip. Cos i was prepared to give 200k, so i stupid stupid brought that one note and LL have to give 200k even though nothing really extra happened... sigh.. not sure if i missed anything, but my opinion of here is less fun than sakura. prob also quite a problem as she did not understand a single word of english..

think its probably me and my inexperience.. been there but still never learn anything. any seniors here can give some tips? perhaps shld just go fortuna as some bros say...

Sometimes in this kind of place, you may want to do 2 things to enhance the experience of such a session in hanoi where commercial sex is still not that developed:

#1 Smile! Give ur killer sweet smile more and try to say hello (xin chao) and learn at least to ask 2 to 3 questions in Viet such as "what is ur name" and "How old are you?". It doesn't matter what she reply.. just utter those words to ask those questions first.

#2 when got opportunity, tickle her ankle or arms a little and watch how she react. Especially when u are lying faced down and she is massaging ur back, your hands if hanging down will be around her ankle area, so try to tickle a bit and if she giggles.. hoe say liao!

Hope you can try the tips above and if need more info let me know. Do remember to post ur FR here pls.

[Tony Stark]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

Sometimes in this kind of place, you may want to do 2 things to enhance the experience of such a session in hanoi where commercial sex is still not that developed:

Great tips! This is why I like Vietnam's scene so much. It's not so "commercial" yet. It also boils down to your personality whether you can click with a girl or not. The thrill of the hunt is exciting.

[Kualalumpur]

Maybe it's time to post some help to anyone using taxi in Ha Noi.

There are many taxi companies in Ha Noi, some are real companies, that own cars and meters, and hire the drivers. Some others sell simply licence numbers, and do not care that much if the meters are real or fake ones. Some rogue companies rent to the drivers cars and meters, and do not care about the accuracy of the meters.

First, most taxi in Ha Noi will rip you, badly. Here are some tips from my experience:

- Mailinh Taxi is quite expensive/km, yet their meters are accurate. I tend to prefer that company, as some others taxi with fake meters will be cheaper/km, but with 1km=600-700m...
- Hanoitouristaxi is another quite reliable company, expensive/km, but accurate meters.
- Duc Phuong Taxi never ripped me off, they are very cheap/km, but unexplainably hard to locate.
- Long Bien Taxi are amongst the cheapest/km, but some have fake meters.
- The taxi in front of Trang Tien Plaza, near the Opera, near the Church, and all around Bo Ho (the 'Old Quarter') tends to be all cheaters, their meters are fake.

My post may seems stupid, but this very morning, I took once more a Phu Gia Taxi (some OK, some not), to be charged nearly 130.000VND between the Opera and the Sofitel Plaza ! Usual is about 30.000.

How does it work for the meters?

There are 2 categories of fake meters:
One that will count 100m=10x7 real m, or 1km=700 real m.
One that allows the driver to 'push' from time to time, or does it automatic. I have seen plenty, especially when I am in hurry and take the first taxi coming. 4.1...4.2...4.3... press the trigger, and 4.4567... 4.8..., or 4.1 4.2 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9, then the 5km series is correct, then the 6km again, 6.1 6.2 6.4 6.6 6.7 6.9 7.

I had once friends from Sheraton to Central that have been charged more than 200.000 VND too. They picked up their own taxi near Westlake.

There are some golden rules to avoid being cheated by the taxis:

- Never take a taxi that try to catch you. Choose your taxi carefully. Try to get the companies I listed as 100% reliable. If not, jump in, check if there is a price/km written somewhere, on the meter or on a paper. If not, run out of the taxi immediately.

- Do NOT discuss with the driver, and look carefully at the meter. I noticed that most cheater drivers will speak with you, so you do not look at the meter, and they will push the trigger at that time. Watch carefully the meter, see if it is running regular. If not, ask to stop, and take another taxi. The time meter should stop when the km meter is running, or it will add both (time + distance)

- If you have been cheated, ask the driver for an invoice, with the addresses of departure, arrival, the km, the price, and the number of the taxi, along with the ID of the car. They must do it by the law. Do not accept invoice from other companies, if you take Phu Gia taxi, you want a paper from Phu Gia, not another one.

Some taxis are dangerous too, some are completely fake, with fake car ID, fake taximeter, fake paintings. Some months ago a couple of tourists has been beaten and left without money when they took a rogue taxi. Try to stick to the few popular companies, ask the hotel to call a taxi for you, it is sometimes better, or the restaurant you stay in. They will be more careful.