Batam Info Thread

[Ahsahh]

Part 3
Continued watching tv, till 12am. Then she say she want to sleep. So i let her sleep. Now the problem still horny and can not sleep. At about 3am try my luck. She just say tomorrow morning can continue what. Sibei sian liow. So sleep until 8am, wake her up for breakfast, don't want to eat and wake up. She say want to sleep. So go grab breakfast with my buddy, he said his girl was good. Put up alot effort even when my friend korkor that day can not stand that whole night. Only in the morning can stand. Hahahaha sibei sway.

When back to the room, still she don't want to wake up. She said usually she sleep till 12pm. So i let her sleep. My friend girl left about 8.30 am. My friend give her 20idr for tips. She was so mad scold my buddy then take all his maggie, keropok all the grocery because he gave so little tip. My buddy just kept acting blur. While all that happen. Lol

After that about 12pm my girl wake up, took a quick shower, then ask if i want to f her. I said ok. By then, i no mood liow. After 2nd round done, she was hinting me, saying her soap and shampoo no more. Then send her to the door gave her 100idr, she said not enough. So gave her another 100idr. (Another mistake i made) Then she smile like never smile before. Give me a kiss then left.

Pack up then when down the driver was waiting for us. He then send us back to ferry terminal, then before i go, ask him how much for the whole time we use him. To my shock, he ask for another 600idr. Kanasai. I give him a piss face, but still pay him. Mood when down the drain liow. Got carrot by the driver also. We made only about 7stops in total from fetching us and sending us back to the terminal.

Overall it was a learning experience for me.
I was not firm and the only bargaining i did was on the hj. I'm sorry that i may have spoil many of you bros market. But i will try to do better the next trip and visit more joints if possible.

Total Damage:
Girl $120
Ferry $48
Hotel $80
Makan $50
Massage $80
Driver $80 (share 2 person, so $40)
Sub total: $418

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

Promised Bro Nono my FR (went Sat, 14 Nov and return Sun 15 Nov) since he had provided the thread with really insightful information and assisted me with my questions via PMs.

Thank you for keeping your words. I respect a man who honoured his own words.

When I bring 50+ men to Batam (over the last 1 year),very likely there will only be 10 to 15 FRs. But when I have all the tutorial,guides and travelogues shared here..more will be more willing to try out Batam and later some good Brave Ones will share their experience.

Ultimately,who benefits from the sharing? They are those who have the willing heart to read and understand of course…

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

1. Took the 9.40am ferry and reached Batam at 9.40am local time together with my other friend and this is both our first time to Batam. I thought I was chopped by the money changers at Harborbay as it was only 9450! But well, I had no IDR so I had to change some money first and I changed 50sgd. Went over to Horizon Ferry and booked our return ticket back on Sun (turned out to be a wise choice as the ferry we took at 2pm was close to full with probably less than 5 empty seats). Walk walk see see and was quoted 50k by a Chinese driver to Formosa hotel. Tried to bargain for discount but he said no and I agreed to the 50k as this is within the market rate. In the cab, I asked him casually how much he would charge us for using his service whole day plus sending us back to Harborbay next day. His quote was 500k and it's a special price coz he usually charged non-Chinese 700k. I rejected him politely and decide to hunt for cheaper taxi booking.

Chinese taxi drivers (or those who speaks Chinese) were the MOST expensive taxi driver in Batam as far as i have gathered. You went on a weekend,i think any part of the day will have lots of people. And yes,for weekends,super long weekends and public holidays,always BOOK return-ferry boarding pass in advance. Then again,in the event if there are no tickets available and you need to die die return on a particular timing,S$6 extra on business class is another option for Horizon ferry.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

2. Reached Formosa hotel and we were lucky as our rooms were ready and we could check in immediately! My room was great and slightly bigger than my friend room and I had a 2-3px sofa rather than 2 individual sofa although the aircon was not really strong. Apparently, the Wifi in his room was strong as we had requested for that.

If i am not wrong,they put you in one of the corner room,hehehe...but then again the bigger your room,the lousier the air-con circulation. Air con is centralized,if the air con is not cool enough,always call for the hotel maintenance guys (or reception).

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

Next, we went over to Lucky Plaza as I wanted to purchase a data sim card as I knew I would need Google map. Bought a 2GB simipati card for 100k with 50mins call time (the guy told me it's 500mins but I doubt so).

So far i only recommend bros to get a sim card if they plan to return to Batam anytime soon. Indo sim card expires fast.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

Saw this uncle and he couldn't speak much English and I had to translate my request to him using Google translator. He quoted me 500k but I counter-offer with 350k and he said ok. Was feeling skeptical but took up the offer still (in the end, he turned out to be a great driver - knows the places we want to go and mainly stick to his role as a driver and didn't offer any joints or restaurants for us to go). With almost everything settled, we went over to the minimart at Formosa Hotel to get some snacks and drinks. Told the driver to pick us up at 12pm to go for girls hunting. Plan to go Berry, Gold Bird, Permata Indah, Bunga, Happy 8 massage which are basically the 5 big joints.

The uncle from Hotel? Keep his number,next time ask for 300k if you plan to visit again and subsequently try 250k,hehehe...tell him other drivers only charge 300k and/or subsequently time 250k.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

3. First stop we went to was Berry. There were about 15 girls present but none captured our attention except maybe 1 for me but she wasn't exactly what I want too so we decided to leave. Next stop was Gold Bird. About 15 girls for selection too but the choices were worse than Berry and I checked with the mami if this was all the girls and she said yes as most were booked in advance. At that point of time, we were feeling some disappointment but decided to continue with our hunt. Reached Permata Indah and WOW the choices were so much better and most of the girls were priced at 1-1.2m. Both of us chose a fair girl costing us 1m each. I decided to go for a syt 21yrs old with multiple tattoos as she was really my cup of tea. I tried hard to negotiate with the mummy but she just wouldn't bulge but I told her to guarantee her girls won't run and they would stay till next morning. She said Yes, and I asked for her name card and told our driver to pick and send the girls to our rooms at 5pm.

Good! What can i say except GOOD!! You got some good grade of girls base on your description, just that luck isnt with you as its also weekend.

The same grade of girls will probably cost you 1.2mil to 1.8 mil rupiah in Bunga,Happy 8,Indah 2 and MM,hehehe...still i advise,stick to the 3 safe joints,Gold Bird,New Berry and Bunga if you feel unsure.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

4. Next up we were itching for some massage and decided to go with Delta massage even though in recent months, it has become a tourist chopping place. The spa interior was spacious, clean and neat. Went to the steam room followed by the warm jacuzzi and shower. Was led up to level 2 and a sales lady came over to sit and sell us the various packages. Wow, I've to comment the sales ladies at Delta Spa are pretty. Anyway, I told the sales lady we wanted the 3 sessions, basic room. She said no basic room available and we had to wait for 2 hours. The next tier would be deluxe or suite (I can't remember exactly) at 670k. The price was on the high side but since its 45minsx3 we said Yes as our experience so far in the Spa was positive. I told her we wanted pretty masseurs with good services. The normal massage was good and the sensual massage was fantastic. While performing the hj deed I asked if it's possible to touch the masseur and she quoted me 500k. I said no and laughed it off. She asked how much I'm willing to pay and I said 100k. She said no too but shortly after she said 100k is ok but only touch on the outside which I declined and the deal was off the table. But In my opinion, it's still money worth for me for the whole experience and my friend agreed too.

Its worth it to you but this is the part where i see that you over-spent. Imagine if you get conned for the "special". It would easily reach almost 800k. And that to me,isnt a wise move.

Solution : Try Octopus Spa or Altalanta Spa the next time round. Most taxi driver will know the place. Easily down the price by 1/3 with special service inclusive. Bargaining still required tho.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

5. Went to A&W to grab some quickie snacks and headed back to our hotel to wait for our girls to be delivered. Driver promptly brought them to our room at 5pm and Wow my girl is really a head turner. Told her to sit on the sofa and asked if she wants any drink and I went to get it for her. Had some small talks and flirting using Google translator to get us into the mood. She was really accommodating and allowed frenching and the first round was good. Asked if she would like to join us for dinner and she said Yes and likewise same for my friend girl.

Honestly,i read your FR again and again and thought you didnt have a single round. i counted,you have 3 shots thru out your trip. Not too bad.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

6. Decided to try out Marine Live Seafood. Ordered 5 dishes - sandshrew soup, French bean fried with chicken, mango chicken, home made tofu, salted egg prawns - and the taste was not too bad. Passed 50k to the taxi driver for his dinner cost and he was so happy. Before we ordered, I spoke to Denny and he recommended us the sandshrew soup which is rich in tonics and we probably need that. Price was 120k for the soup. Overall, price for the 5 dishes plus 4 rice and 4 drinks and 1 packet of cigarette for the girls were 492k. Not exactly cheap in my opinion.

Forget to tell you to ask your driver to join you for dinner since Marine Live Sea Food dont serve pork. 492k isnt cheap if you divide it by 2 pax. Try 4 pax since 4 person is eating. Try eating in the hotel with basic food (nasi goreng,Mee,rice etc) the next time round,you will understand that Marine Live Sea Food is considered cheaper than many others.

Last year my 4 pax sea food meal at Golden Prawn with about 5 dishes cost 600k+. A bro who was brought to Windsor food court by his girl pays 700k for 2 pax. i dont take sea food,hehehe...believe me,i am a bit skeptical when someone pays a high price for sea food,therefore in my recent 4D3N last trip,only 1 sea food meal allowed,hehehe...

Sorry bro, no solution when it comes to sea food as i am allergic to most of them. I am the below 30k per meal person,hehehe... (stingy me)

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

7. Went to Nagoya Hill Mall to catch a movie since the night was still young and we chose Spectre. Movie ticket price was cheap at 35k each but the drinks and snacks were not. Should have restricted on the snacks ordered by the girls. Movie ended and we headed back and reached hotel at about 11.30pm.

Hehehehe...now another over spending case. Lucky you guys didnt ask for your girls to come earlier and bring them go shopping,otherwise you would probably spend very much more. I learned it the hard way too.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

My girl was tired so I let her sleep and it's all the way till morning 8am+. When she woke up, we cuddled and she probably felt guilty and asked if I wanted sex. I said it's ok and hj would be fine. Pretty SOP hj and nothing special. She asked for taxi fare and I gave her 100k as I enjoyed her company from 5pm till we reached our hotel at 11.30pm. After that was abit disappointing since she slept all the way.

Too bad,you went for 2D1N. I believe you might have found yourself a good lady with a conscience. You still get 2 shots,a fj and a hj. Not all good tho but it isnt considered as all bad either.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

My friend was in similar situation too but oh man his girl was not simple! She's not happy with 100k tips and demanded for more and wanted 200k. My friend said No as he doesn't have any IDR left but she said SGD is fine. Of course, my friend said No and she refused to leave. In the end, my friend gave her another 15k and asked her to get out. And before she left, she was cursing and swearing and kinda spoit my friend mood. She's 29yrs old already and I don't see how she can command 200k tips as her looks is so so to me. Furthermore, there's no spoken rule that tips must be given. Taxi fare I understand and 100k should be more than sufficient but she's so greedy.

For your friend's case,mind if i ask just one question.

The name of his girl?

I have a "personal" reference tipping table for overnight girls tho,hehehe...

https://samsforum.asia/showpost.p...ostcount=30015

It may be useful. Anyway,it just serve as a guideline for newbies,not a must-follow rules. I practice whats stated there tho.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

8. Anyway, we headed to Mickey Mouse ba ku teh for our breakfast. Ordered 2 pork ribs soup with salted vege and you tiao and 2 ice milo. The taste was pretty good but not the price. 151k which I deemed as expensive.

The price went up. It used to be around 50k with drinks in. Only realise that during my November trip.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

My damage for the trip:
Ferry ticket - S$48
Hotel - S$56
A&W - 70k
Delta spa - 670k
Girl booking and tips - 1.1m
Taxi costs - 450k (50+350+50) (shared)
Marine live seafood - 492k (shared)
Girls slippers at Nogoya Hill Mall - 110k (shared)
Movie ticket - 140k (shared)
Movie snacks - 201k (shared)
Mickey mouse ba ku teh - 151k (shared)
Kuis lapis - 80k
*Shared refers to me splitting the costs equally with my friend

For future trip,you can cut back on :

1. Delta's Spa 670k - I believe most should have known it by now that the staffs will bring you to the Carrot Grinder to be grind to pieces if you are a newbie. Just look at most newbie FRs on Delta spa,ALL of them dont even know what they are paying for.
(I use the word, “all” of them instead of “some” of them cos I have not seen any newbie who really know what they are paying for)

2. Taxi Cost of 450k - Next trip,use back same driver but you have a high chance to bring the price down to 300k. 50k extra for ,1 meal is more than sufficient.

3. Girl Slippers 110k - Well,if i can siam shopping with girls,i would do it at all cost,hehehe..

4. Movie Snack of 201k - Eating and watching movie at the same time is not good,at least it not good for digestion,hehehe…

5. Hotel S$56 - Next trip,since you are likely to have a taxi driver who knows you,try asking him to bring you to Kaha Travel opposite Harmoni Hotel (the one with Mcdonald) to get Formosa Room voucher at 475k which is about S$48.00. You will save S$8 x 2 person. Email formosa to reserve a room about a week in advance (peak period like Fri/Sat) before you head down to Kaha travel. Upon arrival to Kaha,tell them you already reserved a room from Formosa Hotel via email (note down the person's name who replied your email).

Once you are more familiar with Batam,feel free to try other cheaper and yet better hotels in Batam.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

All in I spent about S$405 for 2D1N in Batam. Kinda on the high side but nothing for me to benchmark against since it's my first trip there. Would rate 7/10 for the trip.

Honest rating if i am in your position it would be 5.5/10. Not to discourage you,but its more of a meat and poison theory from a different perspective. Knowing where goes not-right and making the necessary adjustment is going to make your future trip/s to Batam an even better one.

I can almost be sure that your next trip to Batam will be better than this one after reading your FR and believe me,I read them no less than twice. I read every FR in this thread no less than twice regardless if its a good or not-so-good ones before i make a reply. (i dont reply to every one of it tho,hehehe...)

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

Plus points:
- early hotel check in
- found a taxi driver who's reliable
- got a syt which was my aim
- massage at Delta was fantastic

1. early hotel check-in is quite a norm (if rooms are available). – ever wonder what happens if room is unavailable? Just leave your luggage/s with the reception, it will be taken care of by the bell boys.

2. reliable taxi dont really exist in Batam – the LOWEST paid taxi driver I knew earns an average monthly income of S$1600 (higher ones easily more than double or even close to triple)

3. plenty of SYTs in Batam,what you see is only a very small fraction

4. if for 670k a shot (hj) is fantastic,you can certainly look forward to even better ones in Batam. And i am talking about pretty enough girls doing good massage with good hj yet at lower prices.

Originally Posted by Phoenix66

Minus points:
- expensive movie snacks
- dinner and breakfast were on the high side based on Batam standard of living
- girl sleeping all the way from 12am to 8am+
- my friend girl showing attitude before she left

From the Minus points stated,it shows you almost already know where are all the not-right part of your trip. Thats why i can be almost sure your next Batam trip will be better than this one and very likely be spending much lesser...and i am just here to provide an alternate solution to your "minus points".

Hope you will find "better of" what you are after in your next and future trips (i understand everyone has different preference). Once you found it,Batam will be heaven on earth.

Cheers!

[Phoenix66]

Hi Bro nono, thanks for your detailed replies and much appreciated. Yup, I'm pretty sure my next Batam trip would be even better! Thanks a lot to your writeup and tips which were really useful.

Anyway, I'm not aware of the name of the girl from Permata Indah. All I know is she's 29 years old, fair, long black hair but not attractive in my opinion.

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by Ahsahh

My friend girl left about 8.30 am. My friend give her 20idr for tips. She was so mad scold my buddy then take all his maggie, keropok all the grocery because he gave so little tip. My buddy just kept acting blur. While all that happen. Lol

Bro,yr friend is Chinese?

i only give 20k rp to rejected girls. Yr friend probably don't wan go btm again.

[magixskin]

Originally Posted by Ahsahh

Total Damage:
Girl $120
Ferry $48
Hotel $80
Makan $50
Massage $80
Driver $80 (share 2 person, so $40)
Sub total: $418

According to your FR.. you can spend less than 299$ for 2D1N..

Upz you for sharing..

[heaveho]

Hello, been lurking around for a while and decided to register and post my first post here. And sorry for bad English.

Last week I went to my 3D2N virgin trip to Batam.
Lucky enough a friend helped me during the trip.
For the trip it self, we follow bro nono's guide.
Find a taxi, check in hotel, and visit some joints.

to shorten, here is my FR:

Day 1
Reach Batam at 2PM and my friend pick me up (by taxi) as he was in Batam earlier than me. Then we straight went to several joints. After 2-3 places, I booked one from hawaii, i do agree that hawaii need a new lighting as it is very blurry inside, the cost is 1M. Tried to lower the price by 100k but failed, well i just thought this was my virgin trip so i don't mind to pay a bit lesson fee. Meanwhile my friend booked from other joint, MM if not mistaken.

After that we went for lunch at Nagoya Mall and do some shopping before going back to hotel, Da Vienna. I bought some chocolate bars and ion drink (this is a kind of life saving later). After reaching the hotel, we told the taxi driver to pick our ladies and send them to our room at 5:30PM.

At 5:45, the girl arrived and I did some interview first (I speak Indonesian fluenty) Turns out she is 25 and been working for about 3 months. After awhile we took shower together and the rest is SOP. Overall, great GFE and willingly to respond for any of my requests. By the way, she is a shy one. She didn't want to go out for dinner neither let me to go out too, luckily I bought some choco bar and we ate that and enjoy the night. I think I did a good job with her, as she never ask for a tips (But I did give her 200k as she satisfied me)... ow Its 3 round thru the night(+morning)

Day 2

After my girl vanished, I ate my breakfast at hotel, it has a pretty decent selection of breakfast and at 11AM me and my friend watched a movie at blitz then go for a little "shopping". This time we booked from New Berry, it costs me 1.3M(bargained down from 1.5M as we take 2 girls), then we repeat same procedure as day 1 (lunch+shopping)

At 5:30PM, the girl come and i did some Q&A. Turns out I got a SYT. She said she is 19... and after that its standard procedure. This girl has a great GFE, like to kiss but... not a very satisfying one, well who can blame her as she just broke with her boyfriend the day before. Turns out that she never has an "O" before... I tried to give her "O" for the first time but she resisted it... In the end I managed to get 2 round only. As the morning come, she took a shower and I gave her 100k for tips (and once again, the girl didn't check it in front of me) and she left.

That's it guys
My virgin trip to Batam.
Personally, I am satisfied as no runaways and great GFE.

I do think that having communication with the girl is important as it can either lead you to heaven or hell

[sl135831]

Hi batam warrior. I am curious about the full service massage. Is there a massage charge like u paid in Singapore e.g 40 dollars then full service 100 to 120. Over there is it one charge u paid the service center.

I don't want spoiled market or carrot.

[PigletDiDi]

Originally Posted by Ahsahh

Part 3


Total Damage:
Girl $120
Ferry $48
Hotel $80
Makan $50
Massage $80
Driver $80 (share 2 person, so $40)
Sub total: $418

Oh this is abit over spent, enough to get 2 overnight for 3d2n trip.

[PigletDiDi]

Originally Posted by sl135831

Hi batam warrior. I am curious about the full service massage. Is there a massage charge like u paid in Singapore e.g 40 dollars then full service 100 to 120. Over there is it one charge u paid the service center.

I don't want spoiled market or carrot.

No the special add on hj (100k-200k), fj(300k-400k)
This is my standard price to negotiate
Eg: a massage cost 80k the girl syt hj (200k)
Eg: this time is a better place with facilities (package sbm shower didi massage)
This apply this nego rule hj (200k)
They will quote u a higher price maybe start at hj 300k
Show them u are determined for this price don't let them push over.
In the end high chance they will surrender to UR price

I using 100k IDR ~ $10 for easy understanding

[aris]

Originally Posted by PigletDiDi

No the special add on hj (100k-200k), fj(300k-400k)
This is my standard price to negotiate
Eg: a massage cost 80k the girl syt hj (200k)
Eg: this time is a better place with facilities (package sbm shower didi massage)
This apply this nego rule hj (200k)
They will quote u a higher price maybe start at hj 300k
Show them u are determined for this price don't let them push over.
In the end high chance they will surrender to UR price

I using 100k IDR ~ $10 for easy understanding

I think the question was more like when do u pay than how much to pay? Since there is negotiations with the girl, I assume u pay separately to the girl directly?

[KohOnly21]

I think the most attracting part about delta that seduced some of us to revisit again is the "superman position massage process*

Where the masseur lifted both of your legs onto her thigh while she caressing our cock from below. Using her hand to slide between our ass.. This part is where it's different from other massage parlours..

[micmac888]

Originally Posted by Naka_Timo

Be sure, it will satisfy my taste bud

LOOOOOOL ~~ when got opportunity again, we go binge together. Thoroughly enjoyed eating with you !

[Naka_Timo]

Originally Posted by micmac888

LOOOOOOL ~~ when got opportunity again, we go binge together. Thoroughly enjoyed eating with you !

Sure. Y not? sure have chance.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Naka_Timo

For food at btm, have to know where to get cheap and worth food, some see us as tourtist will carrot us..

You reminded me,my part time Boss and one of his friend recently just went to Batam on 8th Oct and back on 9th Oct 2015,Thu to Fri.

Stays in Nagoya Hill Hotel,tells me its a 5 star hotel that cost S$80+,got a taxi driver that charge both of them S$150.00 (shared by both),whom he says stays with both of them from the moment they step out of Harbour and ALL THE WAY,including eating at Windsor food court. Booked 2 PRCs at S$350 each pax which they complained F-up service.Tip S$50 each (they usually tip S$100+ for good service girl). Went to shop for prawn crackers and in total,their 2D1N trip cost S$700+ EACH excluding ferry tix (thats according to them).

All of us were laughing at the 2 of them when they were sharing their Batam trip with us.

They say they want to join me in my next trip (the Nov one),i told them i only have ONE simple condition for them. That is I get to keep ALL their available cash thru out their whole trip at the point of arriving at Harbour Bay and will return them whatever is left after they pass the Indo custom upon their way back to Sillypore.

My offer to them (with at least S$2k on hand for 2d1N) :

Accommodation : 2D1N in a 1 room with half hall suite at Da Vienna Hotel (junior suite) With that kind of budget,stay in Montigo Resort (S$400/night stay) also can la,hehehe.. (with in-room swimming pool)

Girls : 2 overnight SSYTs EACH (3-some),all guaranteed below the age 20

Food : I cover them from Breakfast,Lunch,Dinner and Supper. Dinner/Supper will be the exact same thing they have ordered before in Windsor Food Court.

Massage : Ocean Massage (4 “breasts” to body massage by 2 female) before 12pm and Altalanta Spa VIP package at noon.

I told them I will rate my above planned trip a 2/10, they say they will think about it,hehehe...

My part time boss suppose to let me know end of this month or beginning of next month.