Happily Married with an ex WL(VN)

[qsnake]

Originally Posted by ttrax

just to share that i also had a friend that married a KTV(la sub bar) China girls. we used to go cheonging when we were young.. and he got stuck with this china girl. now they are happily married with 1 kids.. but his wife still get very worried when i jio him out to drink kopi at night... heehee...

well, at least his wife is worried. Some wife just don't care.

[BlackerKnighter]

Originally Posted by JueShiHaoJian

bro blackerknighter a lot of samsters here is truly smart..... coz most of us will know when WL want to try KC us..... i mean u know wat i mean......

some kana KC... i believe is they looking for the professional care and concern they had been missing for donkey years.....

to put it simply.... i am someone who had seen a hell lot of things that happens where a lot of others had not had the chance to experience.....

If u have a chance to know me, meet me and talk with me face to face..... adn know who i really am.....i believe u will understand all that i had said is the truth..... that is IF u have the chance.....

Meet and chat arh? IF it happen IT happen lor no problem lar though due to nature of job and image that need to be maintain I am discreet with anything to do with whore scene (including tis forum)..better I oso let go 1st haha! Definitely not the bring (obvious) kway out to shop n lim kopi kind if u know wat i mean hehehe.

I oso curious why you so certain everything u say is the only truth leh haha. Who are you nobody here can say lah..If want to say say la but dont want to say juz let it be lah oso no need to bring hint up like secretive cryptic mystery mah..coz got no suspense at all la!

OKT? snakehead? Interpol? Zen monk? MFA diplomat? Iron Man? Dun matter la, bro..everyone here hide behind anonymous face to sum extent tio bo for watever reason so issue not impt to me or most bros lah! You can be who you want to say you are if it makes u happy lor. Fine n of no consequence to me.

Eh Dun mind me saying but ur statements are juz a bit vague and your evidence or example few so hard oso to have meaningful exchange.

Any Way If got sumting to share can just say and share here for the benefit of all listening samsters lar! Otherwise like claim got hidden knowledge n wisdom but cannot share share oso a bit no meaning, boh meh?

And as for special experience and knowledge I prefer to think everyone is diff and got many unique things to share if they willing to lah. If you can just find time share here lor why say so special but must wait till see face to face tat will neber cum? As a noob I always eager to learn more about life so donch see why cannot just do here leh..no need so serious one la!

I agree with ur point that a lot of cheongsters are smart and know KC for what it is. How they play with it knowing it is fake and BS is another thing but we all got diff game plan, threshold and objective so to every samster his own lar. With whores that you take beyond F&F n as long as it still remain a transactional relation irregarless of no. of RTF,its either be a player (even if u like me onli play lightly) or be played.

Still dun see how this changes the fact that there are still morons out there who cant tell so get conned or my original point that the whore market is just mostly a lot of make believe and fantasy and that if you aint careful or constantly get reality check you will be tio chop by conniving whores who will make use of ur feelings to KC scam you (Hardly the place to start looking for a lifelong partner, u don't think so meh?)..or that kways are in no way a special class of 'victims' or saints.

I just give you few example of REAL LIFE case I encounter before why n how some cheongster of all age still tio pian. Although individual experience of the scene may differ am still sure they are generalizable.

Chye Tow A is physically a bit challenged. Normal but just kind of short and got obvious buckteeth. He not a looker plus was quite a beng. Try to kow girls back in school but tio reject. Before graduate in uni intro'ed to KTV by fren. Since never kana anything from women before he 'fall in love' with a succession of whore only each time sure tio play out despite spending lots of money on presents, tips etc. In the end run up huge debt with his first job post graduation and lose job still no 'love' (or even much sex by then) in sight leh.

Chye Tow B is another normal guy. Finish VITB (old ITE) and try to go poly after army but flunk out not long after. Normal technical kind of occupation stable income but not much prospect. Got self esteem issue and unlike chye tow A who keep try with 'normal' (non-hooker) local gal but fail or reject tis one no guts to even try. Age 30 still a Virgin so under fren influence go Geylang license no. house. After that tio tiao and over a few years progress from Thai to Vietnamese to PRC whores each time thinking he 'in love' and out to 'help' those 'poor thing' whores. Dun seem like theyy ever bother to help him back leh? In the end kana big time from tis PRC FL who con him into giving up his whole life saving on pretext that they were going to 'get married' and she wanted to 'start a biz'. The end is predictable and it happened despite the whole world telling him not to. Money can earn back but at his age (about 42 then) suffer broken wallet n heart how??

Chye Tow C is an ah pek with almost no education whole life work in production line. Always go desker and keong saik and geylang kio kway fr recreation and violent to wife and children (gay son is gd fren of ex of mine) but they resigned themselves least till all the kids move out. Then after collecting CPF monies upon hit the age try to give like king (neber share with wife but kids nice and filial to her so thatz all tat matters) and go geylang daily. One day disppeared for a month or so in PRC and come back with a 'GF' he made in geylang. Not even bothered with feeling of his long suffering spouse he planted the GF in a rented room in blk in neighborhood and start divorce procedure so he can be with so call 'trophy wife' (the low rent whore looks half like a dog though so...) and thatz where the story currently stand. Think much of his savings oredi go into 'gifts' for her n 'her relatives" liao so the ending ahem...oso pbly easy to predict!

Do the chye tows deserve it I rather not say. Coz yes and no and very diff circumstance. I can only share here and believe or not up to you. Many bros would know similar tales oso so..... Yes I give more terok example even though I know of richer, smarter pple oso tio con of feeling but since theywallets deeper perhaps not so bad lar haha.

Every one whether whore or whoremonger has a right to look for love and belonging but do it in the right place and with right attitude lah!!! And dun play with people's weakness and loneliness when u not sincere. Tis I admit is ALSO true of normal pple and 'r/s' but something that absolutely cannot b taken for granted in the fake world of kways.

People with little or no functioning knowledge of r/s and opposite sex outside of commercial sex sad to say quite likely when they kana GFE for whore becum intoxicated and tio kong tow think its real. But it isnt leh!Care and concern can look for n desire coz only natural but when you cant tell fake from genuine that is where pblm is lor.

And as for the whores who the hell or wat kind of 'poverty' force them to do tis kind of not nice thing? Break up people's family, happiness and piggy bank that great feeling meh? N for wat?? They remorseful meh? Give me a break! If tis kind of whores oso deserve SPECIAL pity and compassion wat about their victims?

Am not saying whores when they quit cannot become great wives and mothers. Some do of coz. I oso know ok or success case mention elsewhere before. But if you in a paying situation with one and want to think you found love when the writing is obviously n truly on the wall then good luck take care lor!

Fairy tales are one thing real life is another. Real life requires hard work. Real love requires hard work too. You dun waltz into whore den and pick up 'love' and expect to live happily ever after. Most kways dun expect so why should cheongster??

Anyway tok too much cock again paisay hor TS..a bit free tonight. Hope to hear ur unique thoughts and perspectives too. Cheer cheer!

[JueShiHaoJian]

coz my frien had the exact same exp as TS....

tats y i understand TS.. only i know how my frien know his wife and then married now with a son.... tis is truly not a story to be proud of and so TS bro is real gutsy.... my frien believes other tongues will wag.... so dun want to face tis.... there r also stories i heard or come across, so tats y my tinking is like tat...

maybe u r lucky u never kana cheated by whoever, be it frien or otherwise..... so whoever says something, i treat as a story..... so its not about believing, its about understanding..... like TS bro, 一入江湖便知江湖事所以身不由己

also i dun understand some cheongsters y say 1 WL bluff means all WL bluff???

one person of tat professision bluff means everyone will bluff.... then lawyers are the best liar...... coz they even can bluff in court.... hahahaha....

tats y IF u know me.... we can sit down and TCSS then i will tell u about stories (up to u to believe) and then fuck off together.....

[JueShiHaoJian]

sorry TS bro.. some add on...

true to the extend tat most WL want to bluff... but there will be some cheongsters still wan to believe them... rite...

like workshop service car.... if u kana chop.. u still wan to go back meh....
my true story... i kan chop by tis person i know as frien for 6 fucking years and in the end... i still kana cheated on servicing.... WTF... pay 200++ for full servicing in then end find out actually cheaper at other workshop who dun even fucking know u, charge u normal price (less 50 plus sia) instead of frien price....
like tat kana by frien i tink is worst then KC by WL.. coz u will know at once whether WL KCing u.. then if u still gong gong allow KC then nobody can save u liao.....

bro blackerknighter.. if u lucky u dun have frien cheat u if not like me.. kana somemore by tis mother fucking piece of shit who is frien with me for 6 years... i am still lucky only kana cheated by 2 friens... i learn alot then....

if u believe someone.. be prepare kana cheat... never kana is lucky.... if a frien always borrow money from u n u still lend.... u dun get back a single cent... tat is wat i feel worst than KC by WL.. coz u still get fuck.... help a fucker frien like tat.. never earn anything back....

last advice to all out there own cars... dun believe workshop ppl.. to them u name is all ROBERT.. cheongsters.... dun believe watever ting raw... coz u might end up with stomachache..... muahahahha......

[casannova03]

Wow, quite a bit to digest here...

Anyway, I just do a quickie...Guys, I think its a matter of perspective... personal experiences... and maybe financial health

What do i mean?

First, different people have different thoughts, views and ideas with which to approach a particular topic, item or event.

For example, durian...some like some dun like, some say smell wonderful some say smell like rubbish chute...some say taste out of this world and some say taste worst than shit......

So?? Is anyone outwardly right or wrong here? Truth is...NO!! Its just a matter of different perspective or you can say, preference.....

Some like PRCs as they can communicate with us....some like pinoys cos they more havoc, some like Viets cos they all so small sized and demure and looks like innocent, some like locals cos they think locals more high class, some like ang mos cos they think exotic and very "surd" to have ang mo partners...and the list goes on..... But look...no one is right or wrong...when u have a preference for any one kind, there will always be more reasons why YOUR choice is better than the rest... you will never ever tell ppl your choice sucks and that your choice have problems....RIGHT? - at least until some drastic events make you change your perspective or your preference or choice...

Next, personal experiences.

We all lived in a world made up of experiences. Be it ours or someone you know or someone you dunno. Once you see, hear or know about something, it becomes a part of your experiences. This is going to be used as a guide for future similar event....What th hell am i talking about??

Simple. Is driving at 280 km/h dangerous? You bet its fucking dangerous for almost 99.9% of us....one wrong move and i can guarantee you confirm become "chui chui"....maybe can even save on cremation....

Ask Michael Schumacher or Alonso who drive F1 cars... dangerous?? Not at all...thats just my 4th gear mate!!!

See what i mean by personal experiences? Once you have been there done that, you look back and with the benefit of hindsight you can give a comment that sounds like bull shit to people who think its impossible....

There is another tale to personal experiences....sometimes you dun personally experienced a certain event but someone close to you did. Say for example..you heard your friend say."Wah the hokkien mee at eunos damn good ah!!" So without trying it yourself, you got the experience of your friend who have tried the hokkien mee... maybe you will try it and agree but you might also have tried it and say "ok la...so so only".

So what happens when you have not tried it and someone happens to ask where has the best hokkien mee? You will unconciously say..."eh the hokkien mee at eunos i heard damn good!!" so you see, unwittingly you have been influenced by other people's experiences...although you have not tried the hokkien mee before....

So where does did lead us? It means people with different life experiences whether by themselves or not, will have different views on the same issue.

Lastly, why i say maybe financial health. Simple.

The less healthy you are in this department, the less you can afford to lose.

So a gal who has successfully managed to ask a "not so rich" guy to part with say 500 and then ignore him is taking a big chunk out of him and it meeans a lot to this guy...so what happens? They guy will confirm :" knnbccb, lin na bei pian lim bei eh lui, knn, all XX(nationality) gals cannot be trusted!!"
So here we go.....a new experience is being earned and a new pespective is formed towards this particular type(nationality) of gal and he will go tell all his friends and anyone who cares to hear his sob story... and what happens, these people will then tell it to others when there is a chance and say" eh you know the who and who...wah kena jialat jialat by XX(nationality) gals ah...cannot trust...

What if she does the same thing to someone who spends easily 1k-2k a night on gals and drinks? You think the guy will say the same thing to his friends? Definitely not....His account to friends might sound something like that..... He might say:" wah XX(nationality) gals are so innocent and pure...knn only ask me for 500 nia...cheap man..unlike those fucking XX(nationality gals) every time open mouth 3k, 5 k.....knn!"

See... so who is right or wrong here, the poor chap or the rich guy? Both are right according to their financial health.... See what i mean??

OK summary??



You mean you still dun understand me??


If by now you still dun get what i am saying then....you better stay at home and PCC...Dun go chiong ok..

[BlackerKnighter]

Originally Posted by JueShiHaoJian

coz my frien had the exact same exp as TS....
tis is truly not a story to be proud of and so TS bro is real gutsy.... my frien believes other tongues will wag...

maybe u r lucky u never kana cheated by whoever, be it frien or otherwise..... so wh.

..also i dun understand some cheongsters y say 1 WL bluff means all WL bluff???

one person of tat professision bluff means everyone will bluff.. then lawyers are the best liar...... coz they even can bluff in court..

Originally Posted by JueShiHaoJian

if u kana chop.. u still wan to go back meh....
my true story... i kan chop by tis person i know as frien for 6 fucking years and in the end... i still kana cheated on servicingWTF... pay 200++ for full servicing in then end find.....ge u normal price (less 50 plus sia) instead of

like tat kana by frien i tink is worst then KC by WL.. coz u will know at once whether WL KCing u.. then if u still gong gong allow KC then nobody can save u liao.....

bro blackerknighter.. if u lucky u dun have frien cheat u if not like me.. kana somemore by tis mother fucking piece of shit who is frien with me for 6 years... i am still lucky only kana cheated by 2 friens... i learn alot then....

if u believe someone.. be prepare kana cheat

Haha glad ur fren made it thru like TS..I oso have some acquaintance in various diff kinds of serious r/s with whore.. a few get married got children in the end oso divorce but real life is like that normal non-kway r/s oso like that. Tho there are some genuine long-term success case i know or know of oso la.

Still my point is that they are very VERY rare and few and far between. To make something with a whore or even ex-whore work for the marathon length there are many things to know about and understand and accept. Which is why TS deserve salute for sharing.

Story proud or not up to the people involve to decide. If it is a major practical or ideology issue even though it is something in the past why get into it n invite trouble then? I am quite neutral on the issue of whoring morality. But many people out there might not be....

Still moral or shameful like i say up to people involve to decide still. End of the day much more important are the PRACTICAL facts n problems of having whores as other halves.

You bring up the interesting issue of professional stereotype and ethical values. I don tink itz juz the smooth-talking lawyers but oso ur greedy spiffy bankers and hipster advertising industry types or shit stirring journalists to name but just four.

Are they dishonest? On a personal level? Hard to say tio bo? By and large these are industries and professions that depend a lot on selective dishonesty and moral-free judgement.

So you meet an individual lawyer or journo and would you think him dishonest? I happen to know people in all 4 sectors and I would say that on an individual to individual note they (esp if they r frenz) of coz dun have to be n have to be evaluted individually but jobwise on a pro level sad to say..man, itz the reality of modern working life lah!

If you acquaint with them beyond professional basis its one thing but work wise or ordinary day to day stranger level contact wise you trust these people meh? Must distinguish between work dictate and personal character mah.

So You trust every single word the shitty sinkie news media propaganda machine pulls out? You believe every exaggerated claim you see in every ad on tv, on radio, in the papers, in the taxi, in the toilet etc meh?

Cannot be mah oso!

Same thing with whores, isnt it? Privately honest or not I donno and frankly dont care. Beyond the transaction why think so much? But work wise fr them itzrealli take no prisoners as far as KC is concern. Their words uttered in course of tso kang how to believe? As empty as colgate or battery ad u see on tv right?Their profession is just meant to (depending on how much you pay) provide a fantasy GFE experience so why believe any of it and allow urself to be deceived by obvious lies? You dont accuse hollywood or mediacock of cheating u for providing entertainment that has nothing to do with real life right? With broads should it be any difference (cept they ask for far bigger involvment/sacrifice)?

No matter how much you might want NOT to believe you engage a whore it is just a professional commercial exchange. You got more money the better the GFE until can make mistress or xiaolaopuo (machiam VIRTUAL GF or even wife but remember almost NONE of it is REAL!!) kind. But until you can redress this fact, it is just WORK for the hookers and just a SERVICE you PAID for..so enjoy and donch think so much lar! Like it or not, fantasy is fantasy and reality still wait for you to come down to.

A whore tells you "You are so handsome", "Your kuku so BIIIGG and you really master lovemaking technique so WELL n I cant stop cumming whn u fuck me...oooohhh...", "You treat me the best and really respect me....I'm so lonely sometimes but right now starting to fall in love with you...", "You're so nice and I wanna quit but I have this small money prob..." and you tell me ANY of it can be believed?

Wake up..this is the kind of BS they spring on every cheongster nice enough to pay attention. The only ones who can believe such crappy gems are genuine idiots. Bless them!

You get conned once. Get fleeced second time. Cannot be so gong gong keep on give chance think give benefit of doubt the next one will be ur mother theresa salvation tio boh?

GFE? itz just customer service and CRM that whores provide. A bit of extra frills & mileage points to hope for RTFs and better mid-term payoffs. If this kind of rubbish oso can take to be 'love' or 'respect' then those ideals must really be cheap lor.

Hmmmmm not sure wat u wana say about frens and friendship.

I am a person that values friendship a lot. With my buddies both male n female I can be extremely generous, forgiving and understanding. Friendship is to me OUGHT to be build on something solid and real.

Yet time to time I oso kana taken advantage. But frenship isnt always a fair deal and a fren in need is all the more a fren even if he can oso be a calculative user.Bro, ur fren con u of $50+ only, in principle it is very wrong but neber mind lah..when I was much younger in a failed biz deal (and when this kind of money a lot more impt to me) I lost probably 30-35K coz kana played out by a close fren leh! Okay maybe not a lot today but think back oso valuable lesson in trust. Over the years other thing oso happen so..

These days aku more circumspect, careful and maybe even suspicious. I still value frenz a lot but I oso know there are people out there who will take advantage or take for granted friendship in ways big and small.

If you know someone has become a lanjiao lang over the years (worse case scenario) why you trust him? Because there is some ambiguity and the concept of friendship to fall back on? So at least in ur mind something is true whether it is really true or reciprocated or not when u take that chance with him or her. With a kway you OREDI know chances are depending on the evidence almost 99.9% sure tio pian (cos its based on illusion to star wif!!)and still want to give that is just foolishness based on NOTHING lor.

I dun want to talk more about tis friendship thing coz I oredi contributed long posts about tis frustrations elsewhere in this forum. Its true that when the going gets tough, sometimes the 'true' nature of frenz all come out. Just look at Jack Neo's story. All the so call 'gd frenz' waiting to kick him as he lies down and out while pretend to be ho lang. No diff from whores who only care bout the highest bid? KNN! I know cos I oso kana big time in tis dept and whatever my frenz or ex-frenz did, I still wouldnt compare 'frenship' to the commercial pussy for hire values of the whore world. So call 'Friend" might frak with you but my principle is some things in life should nvr cheapen mah!

[BlackerKnighter]

Originally Posted by casannova03

Anyway, I just do a quickie...Guys, I think its a matter of perspective... personal experiences... and maybe financial health

To add on to n summarize what I put above I would like to say two other main things are very important concepts and they are CONTEXT and SOCIAL / EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE.

Bro TS do agree with most of the things you shared. While we may express ourself a bit differently, think whether its me ,you or bro JSHJ oso actually agree on a lot of things.

And if disagree oso no big deal lah. Tis one kio kway forum just share share TCSS onli la.

Of cos individual perspective and experience will vary a lot. Some people sort their partners by national stereotype. Others prefer occupational screening for gd sense. Right or wrong you are responsible for ur own life n ur decision. What works for you or wat u take to be the truth might not necessary work for others or be comprehensible to them. End of day oso impt to give things more thought and to truly understand and look at CONCRETE evidence and not just arrogant and comfortable deceits that our own limited experiences might led us to believe. Beliefs without solid substance are just delusions.

Wishful thinking doesnt make anything real. And anyway experiences oso cum down often to luck of the draw. So its important to separate the substantive factors and circumstances from hearsay and imagination oso. Cos the combo of variables could be unique. Evidence and close analysis talks. The rest is just airy fairy.

Due to the other things, what is okay for an exception oso might not be immediately applicable to others. Just cos something is possib doesnt mean it can be easily replicated by every situation.

Which is why the context is very important. If the relevant context is not there, no point comparing. Commercial sex WILL STILL BE just a pussy you hire without drastic change of very basic nature. No more. Probably less. U donno or forget n let guard down becum unaware of the context will make urself vulnerable to brainwash and believe lie oso can be real. But wake up liao you oso contextualize your experience back to the lar sup bar or KTV or hotel rm oso must remember the other clues and remind urself wat is BS and wat is not. Of coz maybe u may be lucky and in the midst of KC find something more. Just remind urself of the context and revaluate ur situation then n see wat extent is the truth stretched n c how lor.

Sweet words from a hooker has little meaning outside of the artificial context they are said. 99+% true. You are not meant to take any 'feeling' seriously. 99+% true oso. Trust, respect and 'love' with kways so easy to find you wont need this section with all these guys in trouble.

Which brings me to the last bit about emotional or social intelligence. C'mon guys, wisen up! Go out and live life amongst REAL people for a change instead of being chained to chicken dens, dirty bars and KTV rooms. The more you build up your ability to reflect on situations by putting urself in diverse social situations n building up REAL social experience with REAL pple the better it is to deal with the lies of the kway world.

And it will definitely help you smell out something more real n concrete if you so heng come across one in a sea of deception & trash.

The money factor is actually a BIG factor. Someone with little prospect hit 45 oredi end up tio burnt of say 50K of his life savings in a few mths by a kway will be life shattering for him. But for someone only 30 but oredi earning 15K a month that same amount though still a bit painful is just a lot of spare change lor. Think of the sum as been amortized thru out some more really no big deal.

Sadly the less moolah n confidence you have oso limit ur options etc. You become desperate and needy. Those that are undersirable for watever reason in the 'real' r/s market out there latch onto the lies that hookers tell them cos thatz all they know n think they will ever experience. They only want to listen to the gd things. And they want to believe it is real. And in that neediness is vulnerability. It is this vulnerability that the whores will pick up on. Not say dun have richer folks tio fleece but wat izit to them ultimately? Cannot find better whore? $$$ cannot earn back? Song song for the moment gao liao lor. You con me of 75K over a year and left for some other chye tow u think better..ahem it doesnt hurt me..in fact it just shows how dumb the whore is cos the real player oso neber let the kway know wat is the true extent of his staying power! Bye! Just did me a favor there! The whore world is all about $$$ unfortunately and those with deeper pockets..they dun need the fake 'love' any way so they donch have to put themself in vulnerable position of danger. Money? At most throw in the faces of those who try to play them lor.

But that is the world of players and whores. Its not nice but thatz the way it IS.Bro TS your story is about something else and quite a bit rarer. Treasure it.

I salute you for making tis not easy choice, living with it n sharing ur story here. Unfortunately many bros who expect the same to fall so easily into their lap need a dose of REALITY. Cant run away from that.

[themilkman]

Bro Casanova,

took me 3 days to finish your tread. by most the most meaningful tread i have read on this forum.

this tread should be make a sticky.

i totally agreed with cassanova and some of the bro here. i was once married to a WL and we left for to pursue our university degree together in a country in the southern hemisphere. The relationship did not work out in the end; not because of her past. i was young and did not know how to cherish her; my bad. anyway, she is now a citizen there and i'm a PR there; we are still friend.
I can totally relate to casanova story.

for the past 2 months, i feel that God have given me a second chance with another WL. i can say i am an old bird in r/s, but it has been a while since i feel this kind of passion with this new WL. We spend more time talking than bonking. i hessitated for many months before i open up my heart to her.

Initially, she find me weird that i took interest in her cos of my status, education background and family background. I have kept secret about her cos no one around me will understand why i would choose a WL. I am surrounded by banker, lawyer, interior designer, expatriate chicks who adore me...(but i know they are interested in me because of my position in the company) these people are very artificial.

Initially, this current WL do not know what my background is. i have to be sure that she like me for who i am. i find and feel she have a good heart and that she has potential. we have been going well and strong, it took her a while to accept me. cos she feel there is a big gap between us. she is ok with the age despite is more than 15 years, anyway i look young..

now the problem is that she is still hesitating to totally quit the trade as she want to make a bit more to buy an apartment in the city for her parents. she understand that no man who truely love a woman will want thier woman to sell themself. she want to be independent and do not want me to support her; at least for now.

should i use more love to change her?
i do pray for her every night.

i know i will need to explain big time about how i know her, why i marry such a girl..etc to my family, business associate..etc...this will be my biggest headache...

God and Bro Casanova is now my inspiration again for this relationship...

[etct88]

Originally Posted by themilkman

......should i use more love to change her?
i do pray for her every night.

i know i will need to explain big time about how i know her, why i marry such a girl..etc to my family, business associate..etc...this will be my biggest headache...

God and Bro Casanova is now my inspiration again for this relationship...

I agreed with what C3 mentioned. At the end of the day, your conscience speak loudest. You are blessed to have an experience and a second chance.

Wish you all the best...

[themilkman]

we had a long talk over wine recently..she said she has trust and faith in me,
but at the moment she can only give me her heart and soul. she keep asking me to forgive her as she need a little more time.

I can tell she want to quit the trade but she need more time, she told me she does not want to be a financial burden to me.

I told her that I am not angry with her, I forgive her and will love her more, i make it clear that it pain me as long as she is still in the trade; not because i'm jealous, but because she don't deserve such a life.

I make it very clear that she need to give me a specific time frame and i can't wait forever.

At the moment i can only love her more and pray for her. I'll leave it in God's hand as God works in mysterious way.

[themilkman]

Bro Casanova....you are an inspiration for many....

but not all relationship will work out like yours...yours is one in many that works..

and i am one of the many that did not work afterall.....

guess not all WL can give up the easy money...plus culture difference...

as what you say...it is not as easy as it seem...

anyway good luck to her for the short wonderful time we have...and also wish her luck back home......she has went back to her home country....

[casannova03]

WOW!! Its been so long.....

Should I continue this thread? If yes, any suggestions on how I should continue?

[myway]

Bro Casannova03,

u've earned my utmost RESPECT!!!

[Subaru75]

Bro Casannova03,

u've earned my utmost RESPECT TOO

[jf66312]

hi bro TS ,

took me a while to go thru this thread by you...

i have an experience similar to you...

am now married to my bxa for a year & expecting a new member in our family this year end...hehe...

totally agree with you & hope things are all still going fine for you...

maybe we can share some of our experience on "VN wife-handling"..haha...i got a lot to learn though...

cheers