My Life experiences

[zapme]

guys u know y i hatred J even now?? esp now cos i never go chanting liao. When she got ghost issue, he gives us his blessing ask us take care in 2007.

2008 before they sell the place, J ask W if they can patched back for daughter N sake. W refused. J sister who is closest to W went to try persuade W, oso failed. J contine ask W again but still getting "no' as ans.
And one day he went to a temple and ask medium. Wahliew he oso taoist, hw come got ghost nvr go ask.




Fast forward abit.

Year2009
She told me cannot sign papers cos she need use J name to buy a flat, she bought a place, using his as sup name or pay by herself. J meanwhile oso got a gf in 2007 ,a Prc aged about 21F. Piangz typical guy, 43m with 21f. can be her father liao.

Ard June2009
I helped her unpack her stuffs at her new home, she stay alone, most of the time i go over and sleep.

After 2,3 weeks, i ask her how come the small box oso wanted keep cos i see everyday till buah tahan? Its a small normal container box but with the word "Xi" wedding word on it.

She told me useful mah can keep stuffs, i then tell her the wedding is a pass thing liao, y keep old things, a box can find anywhere. i explain calmly to her, cos it got the chinese word wedding on it, it will keep remaining me of her marriage with J.

She got pissed off and chided me, i already moved out of the place, i already done so much actions to prove, y i so petty over a box?? I keep quiet but in my heart is boiling hot!!!

Then she told me some stuffs toys of N can pass to Girlgirl( my mum is a babysitter) . i reply her dun need la the toys are old and girlgirl is not a begger. Course i duno from where i feel like i am a begger in the realtionship, always begging for her time.

She got upset and brokedown!! Sitting on her bed she was crying, and suddenly her body are weak and trembling. Her head start shaking like trance. I immediately went over and hugged her, hold her head, comfort her, apologised, pray to Guanyin Pusa for help.

I managed cool her down. She begged me dun hurt or give her stress anymore. Cos once she stressed she will like that.




For her career, suddenly she got sickness but not H1N1 but keep on sick and at same time resigned from her job, cos health plus her final exams coming.

This decision of her take away stress from work, but come another new stress which is financial.
One nite she sms me ask me to move on in life and forget her, she cannot take the stress anymore and wants to died. Immediately i rushed over, she was just laying on her bed, like a body with no soul, i quickly on the "Da Peh Chou" and again ask Pusa for help.

Guess what she told me. She wants me to read storys for her sleep, and ask point to me the books, Kaoz the title is like 3 little pigs, these kinda of storys. I read books after books and she fall asleep.

I know things are going too far liao, i browse online and chanced upon a webiste forum. www.lioncity.net Driver Error

I went in and write my story under "My Encounter". Soon replies came in. 1guy nicknamed darkmind who is singaporean as well pm me.



Soon we liasied thru sms, he recommend me to "CHANGSAN BUDDHIST SOCIETY" Before i bring my gf there, again i went bugis Guanyin Pusa for lots, issit ok to seek help there?? The lot was good, and off we went.

However that place told us my gf okay not spirits disturbing her, Just pray often will do.

After that she managed found another job and oso got her degree.

[Roman city]

Interesting life experiences...thanks for sharing with us.

[zapme]

This whole year 2009 we only went chanting at "Zulin Shi' temple once after the changsan buddhist society, however when we are there, she didnt join in with all sangha members to chant, she says again same dun forced her into it, dun rush. So she just seat in but in the same hall.

After the chanting, i ask her does she feel better, she only comment that when chanting started she only felt as tho got a Big Bell bang into her.

I told her its okay, we just try fortnightly chants, but i guess we nvr went back again due to her work high commitments and health.





I believe people who hear of our relationship will all comment its really very rare whereby both so much in love. However as what i say before, never go chanting funny things will happen.

SHe will always made some wrong decision to trigger me. Once last year08 i received a call from her, actually its mistakenly press and dial to me, she was unawared, from the hp i managed to hear background, got J and N talking. I checked with her when she was with me, its that it so happened that they chanced upon at far east, so just lunch and she came finding me. Cos i know she meeting class frd at town for project. I gave her the trust.

This year few weeks ago it happen again. The ph come me by itself, maybe in her handbag and press accidently. from the background its W n J talking. She was like telling him if he want he can come over her place look after N, cos she need to travel malaysia for work.


I called her after the ph died off. I question her how come nvr tell me go out with him, and she told me its last min thing, cos she need to go warehouse get suitcase and he oso needs to(he going Japan) They rent a small warehouse space to store some of the stuffs. Cos J hafnt buy a place yet cos W using his name at her current home. And she can saved the cab fare which is only less than $10. I got more pissed off with her, i tell her straight u r never a thrifty person, u will save a 2trip $10 cab fare?? Her monthly cab fare is about $1100 to and fro from workplace.

I got annoyed and iniated breakup. She cry and was very upset and begged for my forgiveness, promising nvr to take his car ride again.

Now u guys understand, y got funni things happen?? So Zun meh the hp called me both times accidently and it happen both time she with him?

my heart turned soft whenever i thought of our first yr2005 together. She luved me so much treat me so well. We patched. I gave her alot of understanding. Year 2005 we actually had a pact, every fri nite she sleep at my place, sunday she will come my place in the day. Sat she will takecare N.

However ever since she rent a place last year, the fri nite stopped, her place now cannot oso cos her parents shifted in n Daughter N.

[zapme]

Short info on W
when i know her in 2005, her smile melt my heart, when she smile or laff, she look so much like Hongkong actress Yang CaiNi.
Ht163, wt58, althought fleshy, but know hw to dress to conceal very well, cuvry in the rite areas.
2005 there are at least 7 or 8 wanting to get her to fling, some try a year plus still failed.
When she sign separation papers in Jun05, even the lawayer cheeky to her and wants to date her.
However year06 her figure changed, started eating alot snacks, weight highest gone 70 or 80plus, now she say 60odd bah but i tink more likely 70.







Just about 2 weeks ago we had major quarrel again. Actually we had not
spent a overnight together since end june09 after her parents shift in. I always tell her impt of overnite for me is cos i feel its a way on bonding, hugging eachother sleep, to me, its bonding.

My birhtday in Oct, she was busy at work, its real. She say will makeup to me, i say its okay i understand, i just request she find time and we overnite one day for bonding.

Finally end 27thNov she told me she will find me after work. Endup the work tied her down, i too understand and nvr hold to heart. Cos its work. She promised will makeup on sat. I was so happy on sat, surf sammyboy surf, net waiting for time to pass till nite.




However 9plus she gave me a call and told me, it might be quite late, cos Daughter N got a birthday party function at 12midnight, i keep quiet and think and told her nvr mind lets postponed next time. Cos i have no energy to wait till 1plus am. Its her daughter friend birthday party.
She gave me a call again and tell me if lets she she can make it at 12.30, can i wait for her?

I analysed and told her, quite unlikely, i was like saying, "the Party start at 12, cut cake sing song 12.05, means its like immediately leave after it. I told her impoosible leh, cos even can, N will definietly kick a fuss oso(she is 12yrs)
Never mind just postponed nxt time. i was calm all along.

She lost her cool and raised her voice at me, saying what i expect to do?? Well she is stress, i gif her understanding, but dun use her stress and frustration on me. I boiled up when plp raised voice at me.

My tone change 360, i say what is this!!! from jun till now nearly 180nites, i only request a nite from u so hard ah!! Ur N get all nites i nvr say anything, This overnite u promised is to makeup for my birthday, nw N friend birthday more impt than me!! Where am i ranked!

I told her breakup.


What goes around comes around really. Year2005 she always iniated breakup cos she dunwan to hurt me, wants me to be happy, Year2009 become my turn keep saying break. Our near 5years together break and patch at least 30x.


Somemore she will always say u never be a parent u nvr understd. I had to keep in my heart cos dunwan her breakdown. Kaoz our child i nvr had chance hug oso. Daughter N so fortuante abled to come to this world have this have that liao.

She will sms tell me words that u read u will will know her depression or trance start. however i tell her straight, this time round i can proudly tell u break is cos i know i put in my best in the relationship, I waited 05 till now n papers not done yet. U scared i cant wait 3years now nearly 5years.

She will say if u in my shoes wat will i do??
My ans simple ur mine child u listen to daddy, moreover daught12 cannot encouraged her go so late nites event wait become habit.

I told her u trance i oso dun cared, let ur precious daughter N takecare of u then.

Papers Issue -(end june09 is offically4yrs) told me her finance tight, knn only 750. nov tell me called lawyer but she overseas, now is tell me end Dec cos no $ but will ask J pay.

[zapme]

For our makeout i oso duno what to say.

First year was incredibled, she can blow me for an hour, eager pleasing, adventurous.

2nd year onwards changed. out of 20makeout, maybe only blow me once, and def less than 15mins.

4th year onwards standard only 1 post usually she below and enjoy, i make efforts lick her and everytime she will cum before me.

Makeout is most once a week. worst once a month.
Touch her, she will grumble she feel like she prostitute, love is not abt sex oni, kaoz 1 week oni meet 1 time of cos i touchy.
Kaoz died at her hands.




Short profile on me before turn buddhist.
a flinger who nvr commit
3 dates no sex, byebye
if investment lose $, Byebye to FB oso, cos jinx.
more than 58kg gal will nvr meet with her.
usually fuck the gal 1x will disappear.

[zapme]

Well for my relationship with W, all i can say i very tiring, mentally and physically.



Btw my 3rd dream i will shared.
I dreamt i am walking along a fence, and i wanted to cross over, infront of me was a hole in the fence, on seeing the hole i know i can go over using the hole.
Just when i reach the hole, i noticed spider webs all around my neck and head area. i removed all the spider webs and crawled thru the hole in the fence.
Upon reaching the other side, i saw an old monk seated there, i do a 3bow 3kneel in respect to the monk. I went off and my mum came to me and told me the monk ask her to pass me this angpow.


My own interpretion of the dream.
I needed get to the other side which is buddhism enlightenment.
To cross over i need to remove all spider webs which are my obstacles.
Once the person(monk) i seek appear, i can study from.
My mum may be the person linking me to the monk as well cos she pass me the angpow from the monk.




Haa now i really backtracked alot from buddhism! thats y nxt year me too will quit from sammyboy forum. Cos FL3 the koreans very distracting, many times feel like finding a good fuck. But i know i cant.

I know 100% buddha is real, the teachings is real, the punishment in hell is real. People may think that the dreamt of Buddha Amituofuo is a dreamt. In science will say, u just been to the temple, u tink of it thats y u dreamt of it.
True.

But what i can say is a dreamt cannot change a person thinking and character. A dream cannot let a person become so compassionate even to an ant. I do fishing last time and kill a crab using an umbrella cos i duno how to tied it. And told my frd if i dun killed it hw is he going to reicarnate. Thats y this dream changes all my thinking and character.

[zapme]

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The above link is for people
Who are curious about after death what happens??
Its only about an hour show, if ur free, no harm having a look.
An hour is nothing, but watching it may change not only your this life, but many of you oncoming livessss. The link is below. I believe all religions goes to the same hell, if other hell is more welfare, then i believe all will go to that religion.

An hour of time, its for own good, changes your life, n ur many after lives, foc viewing. Believe or no believe its all individual, we all got to be responsible for our actions. To me its 100% real, i dun have a choice but to believe, my encounter in life speaks for it.

We can still choose our lifestyles after viewing but at least for myself i know what i will be punished for when i go there, thus no regrets, have to be responsible for own actions.

So if anyone happen to be bored, please watch, its only an hour.





I am not here to get merits in life, in buddhism whatever merits will need to do a "Huixiang" and give out all the merits to the 6realms beings.

I always preach cos i wanted to repay Buddha help and knowledge he given me. My workplace incharge juz say i keep see gals then tok about buddha, so disappointed.

My ans to her is simple and from my heart.
I failed and backtracked but i am willing to share my encounter and knowledge cos even i fail i hope others can do better.

Chinese mostly are "pandan" especially ghost incidents, over dun say liao. I say is to convince people its real.


Thanks to everyone, may u all be enlightened regardless of whichever religion.

[zapme]

Thousand apologies. just found out the link dun work anymore

[zapme]

http://tangwch.blog.163.com/blog/sta...0095555453225/

Sorry guys, for those curious, the above, paiseh comp to me is alien, so only know cut and paste. Enjoy the weekend.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

So is your story complete?
You break wif her for good liao or its still an on off thingy?

[zapme]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

So is your story complete?
You break wif her for good liao or its still an on off thingy?

We patched cos although now she is like that, but the sweetness and luv of her when we first started still live in my heart.

I told plant beans dun expect to harvest apples.

How much effort one put in, is how much one will get.

Though relationship cannot really compare who put in how much, but if u selfish, its only how much and how long the other person willing to endure.

She agreed and promised to put in more efforts and i agreed to try out once more.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro Zapme, kudos to your efforts and endearments but pls allow me to comment on several stuff that i've read and allow me to share wif you my take on the whole picture.
Do some soul searching on my comments pls and in no way is it to insult or mock your efforts.

1) She is still not legally divorced, thus one will start to wonder why is this so????
Also, if she finally does have a divorce, it's only anybody's guess that you're the next in line for her hand in marriage.
So what's holding her back??? Financially, shouldnt you be there for your so call future wife??????
Nothing much was elaborated on this.
On this notion, i feel that there're many truths not revealed or mentioned for us to understand the whole picture.

2) Your comments on her keeping memorabilia is extremely unhealthy but it also reveals that there are many deep thoughts that she still habours in her mind that you are probably no aware of and probably never will. This is also the demon seed in your relationship & will always be the cause of all instability that will come along the way, as you have experienced many many times over. It shows that her 1st marraige means hell alot to her & she is holding on to memories to them and not surprisingly, wanting to relive the whole episode again if she could.

3) Her depression is very important and you should understand that depression does not categorise her as MAD but it's an illness. As I've mentioned in my earlier post, how you take situations lightly may not be applied the same way as her.
Depression is when one cant handle the truth and when one's world starts to implode on them, thus they cant see a way out of their probs, so they start imploding, thus they fall into depression. If she's really depressed & on depression, seek medical assistance and they have drugs to control this illness.

4) Do a profile of her life from the very beginning till now. Have a very open heart to heart talk wif her & promise her you'll not get upset on whatever is said & ask her for the same. Do these talks very often so as to get a perfect picture of the person's lifestyle and habits way before you appeared in her life. That can tell you alot about this individuals aims and aspirations.
Example, if a poor man has only a dollar to spend, he'll not be to worried cos he's used to a simple lifestyle. If a rich man has only 1000 bucks left to live, he'll probably feel he's already as good as dead and start to worry bigtime.
Some women, even not WL, would want to marry a man of good financial standings. Like a drug addict, once they loose that life, they'll also start to feel very lost. These people are very $$$$$ driven. They'll have confidence once they have $$$$, once they loose it, they loose their self esteem.

5) Understand and find out from the conversations what's making her hold on so dearly to the past, for its clear to me that it's destroying her future, not just for herself, but to even you. The most important thing here is to help her get her mind back on track and once her will to live comes back again, you wont have to worry too much liao.

6) As for the spiritual stuff, like i said, i believe you wholeheartedly, at face value la of course cos I've personally encountered it before. But remember, she's from a faith & you from another, imposing it on her actually has 2 possibilities. One is that everything also ok, cos she just wants to please you, but once the pleasing u part expires, she'll start asking herself on her faith etc, thus the explosions you get from her. The other, she questions her faith and whether she's really following a wrong faith. These are very serious stuff and its also something that you should not have imposed on her.
Try something else, neutral, like FengShui. It's very powerful if you know how to apply it or have a good sifu to guide you. FengShui is a science and not religion, so thus, there's no clash or any detrimental effect on both your diff faiths.

7) Clear her home from negative energy, and start understand her pain and what is breaking her and then, slowly rebuild her broken pieces into one complete piece again.

Your most important aim, in my humble experience, is to get her mind back on track, cos once that is done, everything will fall into place and nothing external can affect her anymore after.

Good luck my friend, but a last reminder, do not push her for her sanity. You chose her, so lead her to the light at her pace & not yours.
Bless you my brudder

[zapme]

Thanks pal for spending ur precious time reading the extremely long post.

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro Zapme, kudos to your efforts and endearments but pls allow me to comment on several stuff that i've read and allow me to share wif you my take on the whole picture.
Do some soul searching on my comments pls and in no way is it to insult or mock your efforts.

1) She is still not legally divorced, thus one will start to wonder why is this so????
Also, if she finally does have a divorce, it's only anybody's guess that you're the next in line for her hand in marriage.
So what's holding her back??? Financially, shouldnt you be there for your so call future wife??????
Nothing much was elaborated on this.
On this notion, i feel that there're many truths not revealed or mentioned for us to understand the whole picture.

From what i know of, their love is over, both of them had found new partners, for the papers it all so happen that situations and certain reasons. When the 3yrs up 2008, she wanted take over the place but her CPF not enuff and still need sometime. I am not abled to help financially so i respected it. However 2009 J decide to sell cos he wanted the share of profits, she respected it.

On my part, after my teenage and ns, i seek a carefree simple life, and never settle long in a job. For years I been a soccer punter betting for others as well taking comm but legal with pools outlet. On the high side i got 2k anite as comm. Easy $ easy go. Cheonging ktv etc. I had oso decided nvr to settle down in life and fling is only what i looking at.
She know i am a fling who never commit and thats y she chosen me so as not to affect her family. She know my lifestyle and what i doing. Actually after 2nd date, i am already thinking hw to run cos fling usually i eat 1time run liao cos wont create problems.

This is what she confessed to me mths later.
She know i am trying to run but paiseh to be heartless cos we click well on 1st 2 dates. Therefore she told me we be Fb and i can still go find others, i was thinking then not bad, can uturn for her if no catches. But she turn down her new job so she can have more time to occupy all my time and i wont have chance to find others. Thus we endup first few mths spending time daily together and love grew as well.

However fate is such a way, u really cant run from it. Once she commented that finally she got the courage that life shld be happy, she told me she will divorce and get a place her own to lead her life. We already developed love during that stage but remain fling cos not to affect the family.
I then told her maybe when she does, maybe we can be together, cos i oso told her part of the reason i agreed to commit is cos her financial is strong, while i am not stable in jobs, at least hers is ok.
However i admit i am selfish, although all 5years with her my investment collapse but i do work. But when promotion is there for me, i resign cos i really dun want too many responsiblities and stress in life. I prf to seek a more carefree life, that i agreed i am very selfish.
Thats y we maintain our financial individually, except outing she usually pay for food cos she prf go restaurant while i am a kopitiam person.



3) Her depression is very important and you should understand that depression does not categorise her as MAD but it's an illness. As I've mentioned in my earlier post, how you take situations lightly may not be applied the same way as her.
Depression is when one cant handle the truth and when one's world starts to implode on them, thus they cant see a way out of their probs, so they start imploding, thus they fall into depression. If she's really depressed & on depression, seek medical assistance and they have drugs to control this illness.

She got her depression after her abortion in the marriage, since then she was on medication to control. but i believe manily her depression then was caused the unborn child, cos my colle in end2007saw a ard7 old boy spirit with her. And once i am her went fortune telling with her ard early2008, the teller oso insist u not only have a daughter, keep asking her where her the other child, which i believe the teller oso saw the spirit child with her.

4) Do a profile of her life from the very beginning till now. Have a very open heart to heart talk wif her & promise her you'll not get upset on whatever is said & ask her for the same. Do these talks very often so as to get a perfect picture of the person's lifestyle and habits way before you appeared in her life. That can tell you alot about this individuals aims and aspirations.
Example, if a poor man has only a dollar to spend, he'll not be to worried cos he's used to a simple lifestyle. If a rich man has only 1000 bucks left to live, he'll probably feel he's already as good as dead and start to worry bigtime.
Some women, even not WL, would want to marry a man of good financial standings. Like a drug addict, once they loose that life, they'll also start to feel very lost. These people are very $$$$$ driven. They'll have confidence once they have $$$$, once they loose it, they loose their self esteem.

Agreed very good advise and ur points are very true on the rich poor man theory which apply excatly to me n her. She very used to highend spending.



5) Understand and find out from the conversations what's making her hold on so dearly to the past, for its clear to me that it's destroying her future, not just for herself, but to even you. The most important thing here is to help her get her mind back on track and once her will to live comes back again, you wont have to worry too much liao.

Thats y when we got regular chanting her mind is very clear, when we dun go, her mind is always making funny choices.

6) As for the spiritual stuff, like i said, i believe you wholeheartedly, at face value la of course cos I've personally encountered it before. But remember, she's from a faith & you from another, imposing it on her actually has 2 possibilities. One is that everything also ok, cos she just wants to please you, but once the pleasing u part expires, she'll start asking herself on her faith etc, thus the explosions you get from her. The other, she questions her faith and whether she's really following a wrong faith. These are very serious stuff and its also something that you should not have imposed on her.
Try something else, neutral, like FengShui. It's very powerful if you know how to apply it or have a good sifu to guide you. FengShui is a science and not religion, so thus, there's no clash or any detrimental effect on both your diff faiths.

She studied fengshui as well and did apply. her teenage years she was taoist, however after her dad went to medium and got frightened by "Tua Ah Pek", he changed to catholic, and thus she changed as well.

For her faith now, she actually wholeheartedly believes in Guanyin Pusa, she chant herslf when she is at home oso. she herself had dreamt of Buddhas. Its just that when wana go chanting with sangha members, she dun like, but which i myself assumpt that the spirit with her cant take it. Cos chanting alone and with sangha members the effect is different.



7) Clear her home from negative energy, and start understand her pain and what is breaking her and then, slowly rebuild her broken pieces into one complete piece again.

Your most important aim, in my humble experience, is to get her mind back on track, cos once that is done, everything will fall into place and nothing external can affect her anymore after.

Good luck my friend, but a last reminder, do not push her for her sanity. You chose her, so lead her to the light at her pace & not yours.
Bless you my brudder

Thanks pal, very nice and sincere of u in hearing out and giving advice patiently. Wishes u well and everyone be away from any suffering.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

2) Your comments on her keeping memorabilia is extremely unhealthy..

Bro zapme, please refer to above point.2 comment by Bro DO_YOU_BJ and reflect on it.

I leave you with this: 去山中之魔易，去心中之魔難. 魔 - 人人害怕, 魔在哪里?魔不一定是外在的, 内心里的瞋恨嫉妒，也是魔, 必须用定力、慧力、信力，才能降魔.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by zapme

Thanks pal for spending ur precious time reading the extremely long post.

No prob, i really enjoyed reading it, it is so similar to some of the people i've help get back on track in their life.....

Originally Posted by zapme

From what i know of, their love is over, both of them had found new partners, for the papers it all so happen that situations and certain reasons. When the 3yrs up 2008, she wanted take over the place but her CPF not enuff and still need sometime.
I am not abled to help financially so i respected it. However 2009 J decide to sell cos he wanted the share of profits, she respected it.

That's just too bad...but it's a test so do be patient n endure

Originally Posted by zapme

On my part, after my teenage and ns, i seek a carefree simple life, and never settle long in a job. For years I been a soccer punter betting for others as well taking comm but legal with pools outlet. On the high side i got 2k anite as comm. Easy $ easy go. Cheonging ktv etc. I had oso decided nvr to settle down in life and fling is only what i looking at.
She know i am a fling who never commit and thats y she chosen me so as not to affect her family. She know my lifestyle and what i doing. Actually after 2nd date, i am already thinking hw to run cos fling usually i eat 1time run liao cos wont create problems.

This is what she confessed to me mths later.
She know i am trying to run but paiseh to be heartless cos we click well on 1st 2 dates. Therefore she told me we be Fb and i can still go find others, i was thinking then not bad, can uturn for her if no catches. But she turn down her new job so she can have more time to occupy all my time and i wont have chance to find others. Thus we endup first few mths spending time daily together and love grew as well.

However fate is such a way, u really cant run from it. Once she commented that finally she got the courage that life shld be happy, she told me she will divorce and get a place her own to lead her life. We already developed love during that stage but remain fling cos not to affect the family.
I then told her maybe when she does, maybe we can be together, cos i oso told her part of the reason i agreed to commit is cos her financial is strong, while i am not stable in jobs, at least hers is ok.
However i admit i am selfish, although all 5years with her my investment collapse but i do work. But when promotion is there for me, i resign cos i really dun want too many responsiblities and stress in life. I prf to seek a more carefree life, that i agreed i am very selfish.
Thats y we maintain our financial individually, except outing she usually pay for food cos she prf go restaurant while i am a kopitiam person.

In any relationship, love is the 1st factor, second will be financial, so in this case, the fact that you can give all the moral support but she may still not feel totally complete.
This like i said in my earlier, is for you to really talk to her and piece the pieces together to get your answer. You will find the answer, not from her mouth directly but in bits and pieces for your to piece up.

Originally Posted by zapme

She got her depression after her abortion in the marriage, since then she was on medication to control. but i believe manily her depression then was caused the unborn child, cos my colle in end2007saw a ard7 old boy spirit with her. And once i am her went fortune telling with her ard early2008, the teller oso insist u not only have a daughter, keep asking her where her the other child, which i believe the teller oso saw the spirit child with her.

Yes, it is normal for the spirit of a aborted child to linger on but though may not be harmful, it will drain the QI from the person that it's attracted to thus cos lots of mental and emotional instability, thus may, and i say MAYBE the cos of the mood swings. No excorsism is required, just some simple ritual to assist the child to cross over.

Originally Posted by zapme

Agreed very good advise and ur points are very true on the rich poor man theory which apply excatly to me n her. She very used to highend spending.

That could be her mentality already, and this kinda setbacks takes time to heal. Some can snap out of it if they know how to be more realistic and practical but some just wallow in grief of their glorious days!

Originally Posted by zapme

Thats y when we got regular chanting her mind is very clear, when we dun go, her mind is always making funny choices.

Very important statement here, the chanting is where she feels peace and serenity but when not there, she's still unstable. This is in her mind bro. What i can tell you is, spiritually, what you and the gods you seek can do already do liao, now you must apply the human factor. Time for you to use logic and facts of life and slowly retune her mind to see things straight and how it is now and stop holding on to the past else you will never see an end to this prob. Religion is only a tool, learn to use it but dun rely everything on it!!! Very important

Originally Posted by zapme

She studied fengshui as well and did apply. her teenage years she was taoist, however after her dad went to medium and got frightened by "Tua Ah Pek", he changed to catholic, and thus she changed as well.

For her faith now, she actually wholeheartedly believes in Guanyin Pusa, she chant herslf when she is at home oso. she herself had dreamt of Buddhas. Its just that when wana go chanting with sangha members, she dun like, but which i myself assumpt that the spirit with her cant take it. Cos chanting alone and with sangha members the effect is different.

Many people rely too heavily on religion, they forget that religion is like a key to a door, but the end of it, it can open a door for you but you still got to walk into the door yourself. I think & hope you understand this!

Originally Posted by zapme

Thanks pal, very nice and sincere of u in hearing out and giving advice patiently. Wishes u well and everyone be away from any suffering.

No probs, my pleasure