Tieng Viet lovers club

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

No / v low repsonse to NC activation...
So you only go pebbles, sentosa and HM huh?.... this are the places I avoiding till 24 Oct.

No, I dun like to go these area too. KTV expenses high for these 2 at SH. Pebbles too crowded. I wan to learn TV & KC from u, but dun wan to pay fee, so if we hv common places to go, I sure will follow u. Those not so popular places may hv more MILF than SYT, which is not within your category Maybe u follow me to my KTV session, then u will experience another type of ktv chionging style, low budget one

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

But KT do u know that the amount AdGuy paid for each KTV session is almost the same as your Pubbing session? I think he is looking for ppl like me to rear GOLD fishes in the glass, which is my fav activity inside the pub other than singing

Rearing fish is fun.

1g of beer = 1g of fat Based on my current condition, I cannot afford to tar a whole jug myself.

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Rearing fish is fun.

1g of beer = 1g of fat. Based on my current condition, I cannot afford to tar a whole jug myself.

Based on my current health, i also cant afford to get high I would rather use this amount to learn more TV from the "teachers" so that those waitress will say my TV has improved

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by ciongka

Finally goin to vn next mth liao~~~~

The below is esp for U :

Lurking excitement
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Streams and waterfalls give romantic Da Lat a ‘tough’ reputation


Da Lat evokes the leisure of a hillside resort, the romance of lakes, flowers and misty mornings, but it has a dangerous and thrilling undercurrent as well.

The Central Highlands town in Lam Dong Province is a veritable paradise for a series of adventure sports - rock climbing, abseiling, parachuting or biking on rough terrain.

Attesting to the growing popularity of these sports and of Da Lat as an adventure-sports destination are nearly 10 service providers at the end of the sloping Truong Cong Dinh Street. These establishments have professional trainers and instructors, some trained abroad.

For the young and strong at heart, riding elephants, biking up Lang Biang Mountain or climbing down cliffs of the Prenn Falls and overnight stays in the forest are “relaxing” activities.

Among the most adventurous activities on offer is an exploration of the seven-storied Datanla Falls.

On the third floor of the fall is a cliff 20 meters tall that stands almost upright. Passing it is a challenge that is rewarded by gently flowing water on the fourth floor, but the real adventure awaits on the sixth floor with a 25-meter high cliff and a whirlpool. Its decision time... do you accept yet another challenge?

The magnificent seventh floor of the waterfall is sometimes referred to as the “washing machine” because of its crazy, whirling waters.

If you want a quick way down, a roller-coaster like contraption has been rigged up, adding to the excitement.

All these thrills and danger does not mean safety is not given priority. It is. Trainers will cancel the whole tour at the slightest hint of something unusual, weather-wise.

Vo Duc Trung, director of one of the units, said international schools from Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City and Thailand and several foreign-invested companies have in recent years been sending students and employees on these tours as a way to build up their courage, creativity and adaptation skills, not to mention to confront and solve problems.

Ngo Anh Tuan, a manager and trainer with Da Lat Discovery Travel, told the Lam Dong newspaper that their new tour – crossing the La Ba River on a rubber dinghy – led tourists to feel proud of their own courage and survival skills.

The tour begins with around 45 minutes of warm-up exercises after which they can enjoy the Hang Cop (Tiger Cave) Waterfall and a walk through a pine forest, pass several hills and walk down to the La Ba River.

Here, rubber dinghies wait. Trainers distribute lifejackets and instructions on rowing it through rough waters and tell you not to panic even when the boat capsizes.

This adventure takes about three hours, during which a seven-kilometer stretch of the river and eleven rocky waterfalls are navigated. After a well-deserved rest, there is another sixty-minute walk through forests to reach National Highway No. 20 before heading back to downtown Da Lat.

The rowing journey costs US$60 a person.

Tuan recalled that a US tourist named Justin had emailed him after returning home, saying he keeps missing the adventure that was “full of joy and excitement.”

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HOW TO GET THERE
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By motorbike: Take National Highway 1A from Ho Chi Minh City. Turn to National Highway No. 20 at Dau Giay T-junction. Da Lat is 306 kilometers from HCMC.

By bus or car: From the Mien Dong Bus Station in HCMC’s Binh Thanh District. It takes 7-8 hours and costs around VND100,000 (US$5.14) a ticket.

Reported by Lam Vien

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Based on my current health, i also cant afford to get high I would rather use this amount to learn more TV from the "teachers" so that those waitress will say my TV has improved

base on your current health, you should also sleep early rather than hanging around JC at that kind hour I caught you...

trying hard to find a teacher huh?

[KangTuo]

shown a sms by a bro but I can't translate for him
this vb sms him

"bi nan nen moi bt chan tinh"

I manage to find out chan tinh is heart-warming'.

what is "nan"

[AdGuy]

Vote for your favourite Viet Songs to be translated.

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[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

shown a sms by a bro but I can't translate for him
this vb sms him

"bi nan nen moi bt chan tinh"

I manage to find out chan tinh is heart-warming'.

what is "nan"

Master vdict says that it could be 'dilemma', 'danger', 'sterile'.

Back to the original comment that we need to know background of the sms.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Master vdict says that it could be 'dilemma', 'danger', 'sterile'.

Back to the original comment that we need to know background of the sms.

To bad, I don't know background...
myabe the bro can tell us here.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Vote for your favourite Viet Songs to be translated.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Lea...c/224848782221

I vote for ALL

[jackbl]

Teachers force extra classes forced upon students
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VietNamNet Bridge – Many parents complain that their children are overloaded by regular school hours and they do not want them to attend extra classes, but they must. There are many methods that teachers can use to force students to go to extra classes.

Students of Nguyen Van Kip Primary School in HCM City finish school at 4:30 pm every day. None rush home after the drum signals the end of the school day. About 20 students instead are seen carrying their schoolbags to a classroom about 100 metres from the school, where they attend an extra class. The students have small meals for a few minutes before they begin a new study shift.

Two other extra classes for students of the school also gather in the evenings, quartered in the next alley.

H., a parent of a 3rd grade student at the school, was seen waiting to pick up his child at 6pm. He told a Tuoi tre reporter that, at the beginning of the school year, the teacher told the students that they must attend extra classes. “If students do not go to extra classes, the teacher would not take responsibility for student’s bad marks,” the man revealed.

H. explained that, as a result, his son attends an extra class at the teacher’s home near the school. During the class, held every Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, the teacher review lessons. Parents pay 150,000 dong a month for this extra class.

Many 12th graders of Nguyen Thi Dieu High School in HCM City complain that they don’t want to study extra hours with their teacher, but they must. A parent told Tuoi tre that the teacher asks students to go to four extra classes in mathematics, physics, chemistry and literature. Many students only pay the teacher, while they just sit in the class.

N.T.Tl, a parent of a student of Phu Dinh Secondary School in HCM City was surprised when the teacher asked all students to attend extra lessons in the afternoon, from 1.15 pm to 5.15 pm, charging 320,000 dong per month.

“Eight students do not attend the extra classes, so they don’t get the documents for exam preparation compiled by the teacher. During school hours, the teacher asked students to do the exercises in these handouts, and those students who did not have them had to sit idle,” T. complained.

G., whose daughter is studying at Nam Thanh Cong Primary School in Hanoi, at first decided not to send her to extra classes, because the girl is overloaded with lessons. Later, she later changed her mind.

When the girl did not go to the extra class opened by her teacher, the girl received bad grades on tests. Since she began going to the extra class, her marks have improved considerably.

“Other parents said they once had the same problem,” G. commented.

According to a Nghia Tan Secondary School teacher in Hanoi, teachers do not force students to go to extra classes, and students and their parents decide whether or not to attend extra classes.

However, M., who has a child studying at Nghia Tan School, explained that while teachers extra classes are not compulsory, in fact, teachers apply many methods to force students to attend.

“One time, I was asked by the teacher to visit her at the school. She gave me my son’s test score of 8 /10. She then commented that, had my child had gone to the extra class, he would have a 10, because the teacher gave the same question to the extra class,” M. related.

A Dong Da School student in Hanoi complained that those who do not go to extra classes always receive discriminatory treatment from their teacher. “We know the teacher is not satisfied with students who do not go to extra classes,” she observed.


Source: Tuoi tre

[jackbl]

Research finds Vietnamese men intimidated by modern women
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Growing sexual independence among Vietnamese women is generating anxiety among men who have growing doubts about ‘traditional’ masculine advantage, study found



Huynh said that his uncertainty about whether or not his partner was a virgin initially caused him to feel cheated. However, he also said this ambiguity just demonstrated to him that virginity is not an indicator of a good character.

“I recognized that even though she was only one year older than me, maybe she had [had] prior sexual affairs... because, from what we learned at school, [if she was a virgin] she would have been in very great pain... The sex seemed quite painful, [but] not extreme,” said the 26-year-old man from Hanoi.

Huynh said he told the story to question his own expectations and prejudices and not to cast aspersions on her character.

Vietnam’s rapidly changing society has re-defined female sexual identities inspiring anxiety among men about their own sexual abilities and doubts about “traditional” masculine sexual advantages, said Philip Martin, a lecturer at RMIT University’s College of Design and Social Context in Australia.

Martin conducted 13 months of field work in Hanoi and interviewed 26 men, aged 18-30, during his research.

According to Nguyen Thi Thu Nam, a researcher at the Institute for Studies of Society Economy and Environment (ISEE), qualitative studies based on small but focused samples are common in sex and sexuality research.

Nam, who recently led a team of researchers in authoring the country’s first major study on female sexuality, called Martin’s findings interesting and important.

“[Martin] has offered evidence that young men and women, considered as sexual agents, are in a continuous negotiation progress for their role and gender identity in a rapidly changing society,” she told Thanh Nien Weekly in an e-mail.

“I realized that practically all the Vietnamese men under the age of 30 I came to know were expressing a profound sense of restlessness... Many Vietnamese men were thinking a great deal about ‘change’ in the socio-economic and gender order, and the implications for their lives as young men,” Martin told Thanh Nien Weekly via email.

In his study “These days virginity is a feeling: heterosexuality and change in young urban Vietnamese men” first published in the August issue of the Culture, Health & Sexuality Journal, Martin found that young men in urban Vietnam are increasingly ambivalent about notions of “gendered morality” in general and the significance of female virginity in particular.

Martin alleged that this shift began with doi moi (Vietnam’s socioeconomic reform launched in 1986) which initiated an evolution in female sexuality.

“Such ambivalence might at first suggest a shift toward improved gender and sexual equality. Findings reveal that some young urban Vietnamese men construct and reinforce explicitly ‘masculinist’ gender ideologies by watching heterosexual pornography in groups with male friends or by visiting female sex workers for the purpose of watching their friends have sex,” the study found.

Changing women

According to the study, the young men have deduced that as young women today have changing fashions, bodies and opportunities (compared to those who grew up prior to doi moi) they must also have changing sexual needs and expectations.

They also believe that the physical evidence for female virginity is no longer so reliable due to the prevalence of hymen-reconstruction surgery.

Duy, 28, said that before doi moi, Vietnamese girls were beautiful but very skinny. After 1990, the economy of Vietnam was growing following trade normalization with the US and the society changed a lot.

“Girls became more modern... Now they are taller; more plump-faced, plump-bodied, with plump hips, a plump chest, and with whiter skin... their bodies have become more lustful, and they wear more provocative clothes,” he told researchers.

Some men argued that women’s appearances are not always reliable indicators of their changing attitudes and behavior toward sex.

Another interviewee, Tuan, suggested that those young women who don’t wear risqué clothes are also “more free” than “before,” but choose to conceal their freedom by dressing chastely.

Tuan referred to one female colleague who pretends to be very reserved about sexual affairs in her dress and conversation, but keeps a lot of sexual poems and material stored on her computer.

Men’s adapting problems

Martin said that young Vietnamese men’s observations of the changing role of women in their families and in society following doi moi greatly affected their conceptions of masculinity and behavior “as men.”

“Young men in part negotiate changing social conditions in general, and changing gender relations in particular, by invoking ‘traditional’ patriarchal and Neo-Confucian tropes.”

“Where young women in Vietnam were once thought to have little control in their sexual relations, they are now understood by young men as having sophisticated sexual needs, and demanding expectations. These ideas are regularly reinforced by stories in Vietnamese popular culture around women’s changing sexual energies and activities,” he said.

“In turn, young men reflect on their own uncertain sexual roles and responsibilities, and question the practicality of ‘traditional’ gender norms and narrow expectations around sex and sexuality,” he said, adding that the trend has helped improve relations between men and women while raising concerns.

Martin found that young men were increasingly turning to commercial sex to satisfy their fantasies of traditional power.

Hieu, 19, suggested that women are “more open on this issue.” He said young women’s “openness” to their sexuality and knowledge of sex meant that it would be “easier” for him to find a girlfriend, but it’s also likely that inexperienced men would lose their girls.

A Vietnamese woman writing to The Gioi Dan Ong (Men’s world) magazine said that she never felt a happy moment with her husband. “I have never had any happy moments, he hugged me for a few minutes then he ejaculated immediately,” the woman wrote.

Reported by Giang An – Thuy Vi

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

"bi nan nen moi bt chan tinh"

I manage to find out chan tinh is heart-warming'.

what is "nan"

患难见真情。

bi nan = 患难
chan tinh = 真情

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Sometimes wonder when then dun understand us, is it our tv that's bad or theirs.

From recent few months experiences, some of them really bad in their own TV:

I know 1 who speak TV but dun know how to write and read due to poverty

Some hv many spelling mistakes. Some hv sentence construction mistakes. Some dun know when to use punctuations to make sentences readable.

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

From recent few months experiences, some of them really bad in their own TV:

I know 1 who speak TV but dun know how to write and read due to poverty

Some hv many spelling mistakes. Some hv sentence construction mistakes. Some dun know when to use punctuations to make sentences readable.

Some noi chuyen with us too much that their TV also become bad.