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Re: Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

things are not looking good for both gerrard and torres injury....

are carragher and degen are suspended this weekend??

hope johnson recovers, else we'll have problem fielding 4 defenders..

it's about time for us to have a change in our luck...
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Re: Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

two matches in a row that Torres was taken out and we lost points.
although he is carrying an injury,but since he already on the field for 83 minutes,should have let him carry on till the end.
with him around,at least our opponents will still hold back and keep busy.
we are really in a mini downturn right now.
hope that this coming match against Birmingham,will signal the change of luck for us.

we are in need of another good striker/forward to partner Torres or at least like he is injury right now,we will have another forward to fall-on. those Yankees should sell their shares as we are being dragged down by them, all our profits and earnings are being used by them to service the loans taken by them to buy us.
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Re: Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

oh yes...i forget to mention the other pony tailed arse who sld never be allowed to pull on a Reds shirt again...bloody useless shit Voronin who missed a great opportunity...this chap is really bloody useless n Rafa has to take responsibility for fielding this bugger twice in row instead of fielding Babel at the outset...unacceptable...

as for the future...i hv already stated my tots n nothing has happened to change my views...
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That's a fair call from someone who actually saw the match. The will to win was all for there to see.

One day in the future, we are going to get back our late goals vs Lyon

So, best case scenario now?
Win Europa League and FA Cup
Finish 6th in the league
Yanks sell, Arabs take over.
Stadium recommences, Rafa gets GBP 50m.

Sigh...
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Re: Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

It looks like once the cheater has moved to Madrid, Liverpool is facing lot of problems. I hate liverpool because they play attacking futbal and were a real contenders for both premier and champions league. now i love them. please dont remove rafa till they crash out of champions league. Long live Rafa!!!. You are a genius.
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buddy i told u now i support them. i love the way they play now.
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Re: Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

Man..........how depressing is it to see our beloved team...
You go thru all the posts in this thread...u can realise what a rollar coaster ride we have had under benitez.....

Maybe we need another manger to move into the next phase....

1)Roy Evans was an upgrade over Souness.....
2)Houllier was an upgrade over Evans
3)Benitez was an upgrade over Houllier

Maybe we need someon to be the upgrade over Benitez.

I can think of one name.....he is managing in italy now.....but i guess many fellow LFC fans will hate him.
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I can think of one name.....he is managing in italy now.....but i guess many fellow LFC fans will hate him.
But can we afford to compensate Rafa & can we afford to bring Jose in?
The problem now is Rafa can no longer motivate the players anymore.
The players he sub out during the match - we can sense the anger & moodiness of the players..

After 19yrs of supporting this club, this season is one of the most depressing i have encounter..

Top 6 is even more difficult now..

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Re: Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

the Special One is definitely SPECIAL .....
yes,u need some1 2 motivate the players nw .....
but if those yankees r still around,no1 k be @ the helm 4 long .....
not when u hv these stupid yankees saying they luv tis club,but no action 2 prove it .....
Must get rid of these SOB b4 they k look ahead.
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After 19yrs of supporting this club, this season is one of the most depressing i have encounter..

Top 6 is even more difficult now..

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ya bro,u 19yrs,me 25yrs and i understand bro omnia 30 plus yrs liao and some even more..anyway,rafa already with us for 5 season if the special one really come in..max i will give him 2 full season..
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Man..........how depressing is it to see our beloved team...
You go thru all the posts in this thread...u can realise what a rollar coaster ride we have had under benitez.....

Maybe we need another manger to move into the next phase....

1)Roy Evans was an upgrade over Souness.....
2)Houllier was an upgrade over Evans
3)Benitez was an upgrade over Houllier

Maybe we need someon to be the upgrade over Benitez.

I can think of one name.....he is managing in italy now.....but i guess many fellow LFC fans will hate him.
Spot on bro..he is the solution to our problem..get someone that rest of managers afraid to face and old scum hate to see in our side...i cant think of any beside the special one..
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i too sense that Rafa may hv lost the dressing room after seeing the looks on Torres n Benny's faces after they were subed during the Fulham match...n the clueless haunted look on Rafa's face after both the Fulham n Lyon matches also speaks volumes...in any event i gotta a hunch(like alot of others) that he shall be in Madrid by the end of the season...

however before we talk abt bringing in a new manager of top calibre...i think the ownership/$$$ issues need to be resolved first...because no top manager worth his salt is going to take on this job under such difficult n uncertain conditions...

in the meantime i guess the next best option is to get an interim manager...King Kenny looks like the obvious choice although i personally hv my reservations abt him...but under such circumstances i guess the club may hv little choice...

what is paramount now is to ensure that the Reds secure qualification for next season's CL...nothing else matters...n yes it going to be a tough fight wif the likes of Spurs, Villa n Man City v much in the mix...but i think Reds still stand a fair chance of taking the 4th spot provided this present malaise in the dressing rm n on the pitch is dealt wif before Christmas...

Mon night's match agst Birmingham is a v impt one...Reds need to get back to winning ways in the EPL asap...come on u Reds...

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But can we afford to compensate Rafa & can we afford to bring Jose in?
The problem now is Rafa can no longer motivate the players anymore.
The players he sub out during the match - we can sense the anger & moodiness of the players..

After 19yrs of supporting this club, this season is one of the most depressing i have encounter..

Top 6 is even more difficult now..

You'll Never Walk Alone.

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painful worrying times for all of us Bro...but i hv seen worse times before in the 35 odd yrs that i hv supported this lovely club so we must all take heart...fm darkness shall come light...hopefully sooner rather than later...

to me i think there r 3 chaps that can probably put the Reds back to the pinnacle where they truly belong provided the ownership/$$$ issues r resolved in a reasonable manner...Mourhino, Hiddink n Capello...wishful thinking on my part perhaps but i still think the Reds hv the cache to draw such managerial talent subject to the proviso abv...

Rafa has had his chance...n he has probably taken the Reds as far as he can...tks for CL05' n last season Rafa...i still wish him all the best but think his time is up at Anfield...

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ya bro,u 19yrs,me 25yrs and i understand bro omnia 30 plus yrs liao and some even more..anyway,rafa already with us for 5 season if the special one really come in..max i will give him 2 full season..


Spot on bro..he is the solution to our problem..get someone that rest of managers afraid to face and old scum hate to see in our side...i cant think of any beside the special one..
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Read the following post about the so call $$ spend by Rafa from oversea LFC forum..


Part One

In order to try and dispell a few media fuelled myths that sections of our fanbase seem to have swollowed; here's the full list of players he's signed since he's been at the club :

2004/05

£2m - Josemi: peanuts and was moved on in a swap for Kromkamp 18 months later
£1.5m - Antonio Nunez: part of the Michael Owen deal and filled a gap for a while. Peanuts.
£10.7m - Xabi Alonso: Massive success and sold for £30m+ in the summer when he wanted to leave
£6m - Luis Garcia: Massive success and sold to Athletico Madrid for £4m
Free - Pelligrino: Stop gap that allowed us to rest Sami for league games, benefitting us massively in Istanbul. Now on the coaching staff.
£6.3m - Fernando Morientes: Pretty much everyone made up when we signed him, top class, but never settled. Sold for £3m to Valencia.
£1m - Scott Carson: One the most highly rated young keepers around. Lost out through injury and signing of Reina when Dudek left the club. Sold for £3.25m.

Total bought: £27.5m

Free - Marcus Babbel: Released to Stuttgart at the end of his career.
£2.5m - Danny Murphy: Xabi Alonso signed to fill the role Murphy had in the side
£8.5m - Michael Owen: Wouldn't sign a new contract and sold before he left on a free. He's done nothing since that is a masterstroke with hindsight.
Free - Stephane Henchoz: Released to Celtic at the end of his career

Total sold: £11m

A total of £16.5m net spend in his first year at the club, with the vast majority of that being spent on Xabi Alonso.

2004/05 net spend: £16.5m

2005/06

£240,000 - Antonio Barragan: Kid for the future. Sold for £675,000 to Deportivo a year later.
Free - Boudewijn Zenden: Signed for nothing and released for nothing. Did a job for us.
£6m - Pepe Reina: In the top 3 or 4 keepers in the world now and still young. One of Rafa's best signings.
£5.6m - Momo Sissoko: Brilliant for a few years, had that eye injury and sold to Juventus when his form dipped for £8.2m. Replaced by Mascherano.
£7m - Peter Crouch: One signing I did question but proved to be a great bit of business. Turned him from a laughing stock into an international. Sold for £11m.
Unkown - Miki Roque: Kid bought for peanuts. Sold again for an unknown amount.
£150,000 - Jack Hobbs: Highly rated 16yr old signed from Lincoln. Didn't progress as hoped and sold to Leicester for a reported £1.5m, although figure not confirmed.
£190,000 Besian Idrizaj: No idea who he is
£1.5m - Mark Gonzales: Cheap player to provide back up for the left wing. Sold for £3.5m to Real Betis.
Exchange - Paul Anderson: Swapped for John Welsh. Sold for £250,000.
Exchange - Jan Kromkamp: Swapped for Josemi. Later sold for £1.75m
£5.8m - Daniel Agger: Blighted by injuries but potentially top class and great signing for the money.
£250,000 - David Martin: Young reserve keeper
Free - Robbie Fowler: Pay as you play deal and no risk involved. Scored a few goals. Released in the summer.

Total bought: £26.73

Free - Vladimir Smicer: Out of contract and released. Played a small part in Istanbul.
£3.5m - El Hadji Diouf: The best £3.5m Rafa has ever recieved.
Free - Pellegrino: Filled the gap in the last 5 months of the previous season, not good enough and released.
£2m - Alou Diarra: Sold for £2m. One of Houllier's buys.
£2m - Antonio Nunez: Bought for £1.5m and now sold for £2m when didn't work out.
£6.5m - Milan Baros: A Houllier signing sold at a profit. He's done nothing since.
Exchange - John Welsh: Swapped for Paul Anderson
Exchange - Josemi: Swapped for Kronkamp.

Total sold: £14m

2005/06 net spend: £12.73m
2006/07

£6m - Craig Bellamy: Good signing and later sold for £7.5m to fund Torres deal.
£2m - Gabriel Palletta: Played a few league cup games, not good enough and sold for £1.2m
Free - Fabio Aurelio: Very injury prone but a good player when fit. Great signing for nothing.
£6.7m - Jermaine Pennant: Second choice after missing out on Alves. Ran his contract down and released. Attitude stank.
£9m - Dirk Kuyt: Has his critics, but has been brilliant for the money. 15 goals last season from wide and vital to the way we play. Ultimate pro. Great signing.
£200,000 - Nabil El Zhar: Few cameos last season and improving. Injured now. Promising still. Peanuts.
£750,000 - Astrit Ajdarevic: No idea who he is, and released on a free to Leicester.
Loan - Daniele Padelli: Reserve keeper, made one appearance and never seen again.
Undisclosed - Jordy Brouwer: Young reserve.
£2.5m - Alvaro Arbeloa: Bargain signing, great service for a few years and sold for £3.5m when running his contract down.
Loan - Javier Mascherano: Rescued from West Ham, now one of the best defensive midfielders in the world and will probably be sold to Barca this summer for a massive profit. Paid £18.6m for him a year later at end of loan deal.

Total bought: £27.15m

£200,000 - Zak Whitbread: Youngster
Undisclosed - Bruno Cheyrou: Houllier flopped, sold for a reported £1.5m.
£3m - Fernando Morientes: Didn't work out. Cut his losses.
Free - Didi Hamann: Great servant, released at the end of his career
£675,000 - Antonio Barragan: Paid £240,000 for him.
£2m - Djimi Traore: Houllier signing and daylight robbery getting £2m for him
£500,000 - Neil Mellor: Signed as a kid and did a job for a while. Not good enough and released.
£1.75m - Jan Kromkamp: Nunez bought for £2m, swapped for him, who then sold for £1.75m. Stop gaps at minimal expense.
£525,000 - Darren Potter: Acadamy lad, not good enough and robbery getting that much for him.
£1.5m - Steven Warnock: Probably sold to cheap and looks a mistake with hindsight. Good squad player.
Free - Salif Diao: The clearout of Houllier's flops continues.

Total sold: £10.15m

2006/07 net spend: £17m

2007/08


£5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove.
Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
£270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
£1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m.
£20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century
Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
£5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain.
£11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed.
Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
£1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain.
£6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money.
£18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal

Total bought: £70.7m

£2.7m – Florent Simana-Pongolle: Houllier youngster sold wanting first team football.
£100,000 – Daniel O’Donnell: Kid sold
Free – Jerzy Dudek: Released at end of contract
Free - Zenden: Released at end of contract
Free – Robbie Fowler: Released at end of contract
£4m – Luis Garcia: Wanted to return to Spain. Great service.
£6m – Djibril Cisse: Houllier signing sold to part fund Torres deal.
£7.5m – Craig Bellamy: Sold at profit to part fund Torres deal
£3.5m – Mark Gonzales: Signed for £1.5m and sold when didn’t work out.
£1.2m – Gabriel Palletta: Bought for £2m but never worked out. Young defender.
£3.5m – Chris Kirkland: Houllier signing. Injury prone and wanted first team football.
£8.2m – Momo Sissoko: Great signing, good service, sold when lost his form at a profit.

Total sold: £36.7m

2007/08 net spend: £34m

2008/09

Free – Philip Degen: Garbage, but free.
£7m - Andrea Dossena: Italian international left back. Hasn’t settled. Bad signing.
£3.5m – Diego Cavalieri: Reserve keeper. Only played league cup games so far.
£1.5m – David N’gog: Young French striker. Promising.
£19m – Robbie Keane: Everyone made up when we signed him. Didn’t work out and sold back to Spurs for £16m.
£8m - Albert Riera: Spanish international. Started well but jury still out.

Total bought: £39m

£4m – John Arne Riise: Good servant but form tailed off. Snapped their hands off at £4m.
Free – Harry Kewell: Harry who?
Undisclosed – Anthony Le Tallec: Houllier youngster finally released. Fee not known.
£11m – Peter Crouch: Laughing stock bought for £7m. Great signing. Wanted first team football.
£2.25m – Danny Guthrie: Youngster from Acadamy thought not good enough.
£3.25m – Scott Carson: Injury prone and Reina now first choice. Sold at profit.
Undisclosed – Steve Finnan: Sold for a fee believed to be £1m
£16m – Robbie Keane: Didn’t work out.
Undisclosed – Jack Hobbs: Young defender that didn’t progress. Sold for believed to £1.5m.

Total sold: £36.5m

2008/09 net spend: £2.5m


2009/10

£17.5m – Glen Johnson: Big fee, but has been brilliant so far.
£17.1m - Alberto Aquilani: Injured so far but meant to be a class act. Highly rated in Italy.
£2m – Sotirios Kyrgiakos: Last minute signing to fill Hyypia’s shoes. Only money we had to spend.
£160,000 – Daniel Ayala: Young defender, played a few times this season and looked promising.

Total bought: £36.76m

£250,000 – Paul Anderson: Youngster that didn’t progess.
Free – Jermaine Pennant: Out of contract. Poor signing.
Free – Miki Roque: No idea who he is. Bought for peanuts.
£3m – Sebastian Leto: Signed for £1.8m but didn’t get a work permit. Had to sell.
£3.5m – Alvaro Arbeloa: Wanted to leave and out of contract in the summer.
£30m – Xabi Alonso: Wanted to leave. Bought for £10.7m. Great signing.



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