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[jackbl]

Got a sms from vb, without telling the context, anyone can translate?

"ngay nao a cung thua het vay, sao a ko doi keo lai, a nam tren gio nam duoi di, hat tai siu?"

[volcano]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Got a sms from vb, without telling the context, anyone can translate?

"ngay nao a cung thua het vay, sao a ko doi keo lai, a nam tren gio nam duoi di, hat tai siu?"

u dunno the message or u are out testing people.

message is about gambling

"everyday u also lose finish ha,why u dont change the betting,u bet on top since just now then now bet below or big small.

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by volcano

"ngay nao a cung thua het vay, sao a ko doi keo lai, a nam tren gio nam duoi di, hat tai siu?"

message is about gambling

"everyday u also lose finish ha,why u dont change the betting,u bet on top since just now then now bet below or big small.

Thanks! Which vietnamese word has the meaning BET?

[jackbl]

Who’s cheating who?
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The first time I cheated in elementary school, I thought, ‘this is easy’; the second time my teacher gave me a completely different test – he knew – and I was trapped. My mother was horrified and punished me with no TV for a week, I had to make my own dinner, and was given no pocket money for a month. Lots of kids like me went through this ‘lesson’.


Cheating results in serious consequences in the world outside education. For example, managers and leaders who fake qualifications and lack the ability to deal with the true needs of their communities, engineers and technicians who don’t study properly so infrastructure projects fail or are sub-standard, or business and government revenues suffer as people ‘skip’ procedures and pay for ‘short cuts’.

The other disturbing consequence is the act of the ‘cover-up’ – schools producing clearly impossible pass rates or hotel department managers claiming highly improbable success rates for their staff. The more the training and educational achievement data gets distorted, the harder it becomes to plan and budget for educational development.

In Australia, we have quite strict rules for examinations with strong forms of punishment. However this is not the only form of assessment, and learning is designed to develop confidence in showing skills and knowledge regardless of the form of examination. By constantly assessing and teaching students to adapt and use their education in many different ways, one major exam doesn’t play such a big part in the final marks.

As a boy I remember our regular teachers would conduct spelling, writing and comprehension tests, but our big tests were overseen by a teacher from another class. Through the years the tests became harder and stricter, no referring to notes or textbooks, and the questions more formal with a wider variety of ways to answer.

Among these, gap questions, ‘close’ quizzes, hypothesis questions (eg: if Simon has three eggs and Frank has two…) and then essays – both persuasive and opinionative. Penalties, even as kids, were harsh – detention, informing our parents and the dreaded ‘talk with the headmaster’. By high school, these included deductions from your marks for cheating or copying – plagiarism could even lead to school expulsion – and our teachers know all the texts very well. The rules were and still are strict: no talking, chatting or disruptive behavior during examinations – use a mobile phone and you’re out! No bags or extra papers, and the teachers used to check our sleeves and hands for notes on our skin!

The rules, the same as for the ‘Higher School Certificate’, at Grade 12, were very strict. Exam papers were under guard and only delivered to exam centers one or two days before the tests. Each center has a senior teacher or department officer to oversee the staff on the day.

Teachers from other schools or middle-aged people with responsible jobs were paid to be observers and conductors of the exams. All bags were guarded outside the exam room and each student was checked, once they sat down, for materials on the tables.
If you cheated, your paper was cancelled and you were escorted from the room immediately, the same if you passed notes or chatted with other students. I remember one girl at university screaming as she was dragged from the room for calling a friend on her phone! She wasn’t allowed to sit the exam again for another year!

In recent years, with mobile phones, iPads and other technology, it’s become even stricter. Like in an airplane, all phones off, in a bag and not in the room. While some allow phones in your pocket, to prevent theft, it’s up to a $400 fine if you are caught using a phone, or even having it switched on, during university exams in Australia!

These rules are publicly available to read on all university websites and students are required to read them. You often sign a form saying that you are aware of the rules before you can sit for your exam. Students can protest later on but it’s rare for them to win the case, as both the observer and officer of the exam write reports as well. Some universities now use video cameras to confirm cheating in exams.

In Australia, my teachers often taught, ‘the only person you cheat is yourself’ – you lose the opportunities… cheating only gets you so far in life. There’s always a point where you WILL have to prove yourself. And then what will you do?

[jackbl]

Taxi scams in Ho Chi Minh City, P1: The long haul
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In this series, Tuoi Tre investigative journalists probed both illegal and legal (licensed) taxis in Ho Chi Minh City and their scams to rip off tourists, especially foreign ones, by taking longer routes, using a secret electronic device to inflate meter rates, and other tricks.


‘Ripoff taxis’ in Ho Chi Minh City include both licensed and unlicensed cabs.

Unlicensed taxis are those operated individually without registration. Their owners simply bought fake logos of famous taxi brands with which to camouflage their vehicles into efficient money-making machines. Sometime, such cabs bear no logo at all.

When the police arrive to inspect these cabs, the owners simply flee, pay a bribe, or remove the logos to turn their ‘taxi’ into a normal car again.

Ripoff licensed taxis are those with appropriate registration that pretend to be of prestigious brands. Some use dubious taximeters, have no signal light, or display a different symbol and telephone number than those registered.

Such technically legal taxis are numerous in the city and usually concentrate in areas with large numbers of foreign tourists like the Bach Dang Wharf along Ton Duc Thang Street, Ben Thanh Market, Pham Ngu Lao Street and the backpacker’s quarter (District 1), the War Remnants Museum (District 3), Tan Son Nhat International Airport (Tan Binh District), An Dong Market (District 5) and in front of big hotels, restaurants and hospitals.

Hundreds of such cabs appear on and off at each of those locations on a daily basis.


Longhauling: $18 for 3km

On August 12, two Australian tourists disembarked from a hydrofoil that had come from Vung Tau. When the hydrofoil parked at the Bach Dang Wharf in Ho Chi Minh City’s District 1, the pair walked out only to be approached by a taxi driver with license plate number 51A-22029.

This driver quickly ‘escorted’ the two tourists to his vehicle, which boasted two big logos: one said “M.Taxi”, and another “taxi Mai Linh”. But on its body, the ‘taxi’ displayed the telephone number of Minh Duc taxi company (08) 54.343434. This cabbie bore taxi number 4004.

The Australians wanted to go to the Ha Vy Hotel on Do Quang Dau Street, District 1, a journey of around 3km. But the driver took a detour, driving into Me Linh Square, onto Hai Ba Trung Street, and back to Le Thanh Ton Street. After passing Ben Thanh Market, the driver took another detour, driving along Pham Hong Thai and Ly Tu Trong Streets, and then passed through Le Thanh Ton Street for the second time.

After this, he headed along the September 23rd Park, and traveled back and forth over Nguyen Thi Nghia, Pham Ngu Lao, De Tham, Bui Vien (the backpacker quarter), and Nguyen Trai streets before finally stopping in front of the desired location.

The tourists gave him a VND500,000 (US$24) bill and received change of VND100,000. When the customers held up their arms in protest, the cabbie reluctantly gave them an additional three VND10,000 notes and drove away.

This means the Australians paid VND370,000 (nearly US$18) in total for a 3km ride, around 9 times more expensive than it should have been.

At 12 o’clock noon on August 14, Tuoi Tre journalists under the disguise of customers took a taxi (plate number 52X-0276, with a logo showing “M.Taxi”) from Bach Dang Wharf to Tan Son Nhat International Airport.

The driver (number 793) wore a pair of sunglasses and a broad-brimmed hat and claimed to be with the famous Mai Linh Taxi Company.

The reporters pretended to be tourists visiting Ho Chi Minh City for the first time and asked him if the airport was far away. To this, he replied “very far, it’ll take probably around 40 minutes”.

The driver then drove around Me Linh Square to Hai Ba Trung Street, and continued straight to Phan Dinh Phung Street. Here, instead of turning left onto Hoang Van Thu Street and heading towards the airport, he drove to Nguyen Kiem and Nguyen Thai Son streets, before continuing on to Bach Dang and Hong Ha streets, among others.

During the ride, the reporters noticed that the taximeter worked in mysterious ways. The fee increased by different amounts each time: from VND5,000 to 7,000 per jump, and sometimes up to VND10,000. In all, they had to pay VND272,000 according to this erratic meter.

The driver also asked for VND20,000 ($1) more to cover the airport entrance fee.

When the ‘tourists’ asked him for an invoice, he told them he was out of Mai Linh taxi invoices and gave the reporters one from Vina taxi. At 1pm the same day, they took a Mai Linh taxi back to District 1 and the ride cost less than half of the earlier jounrey (VND120,000).

To be continued. In part two, Tuoi Tre tells readers how dishonest cabbies use a secret device to inflate meter rates

[jackbl]

Taxi scams in Ho Chi Minh City: P2 the erratic meter
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The secret device used to inflate the meter ratesBesides taking detours to increase fees, unscrupulous cabbies use a seemingly normal meter that is actually connected to an electronic device controlled by the driver, who can then order the rate to jump as high as he wishes.

This device is small, the size of a matchbox that can be hidden inside someone’s pockets.

It can alter the rates as displayed on the meter within a radius of 1.5m. When driving, the driver can secretly push a button on the device to increase the fee.

On average, the meter generally goes VND7,000-10,000 higher than it should be, depending on the programming.

Through a Tuoi Tre investigation, we came to know Mr. Tam, a supplier of these devices. On August 15 a driver came to Mr. Tam’s house in District 7 to ask for a taximeter and a rate-altering device.

Mr. Tam whispered “if you want a gun [slang for the device], just inform me in advance. Now it takes hours to install it”.

Tam said the device costs VND500,000 ($24) and a meter costs VND1.2 million. The total fee for installing the two is VND1.7 million.



Coping with police

At 6pm on August 10, around ten rip-off taxis were parked along Le Loi Street near Ben Thanh Market. When they spotted traffic police, several drivers reacted frantically. They removed the logos and took out the light boxes and hid them inside the rear trunks. They also removed the meters. All of this took place within two minutes at most.

Their ‘taxis’ had been turned into normal cars and there was no reason for the police to inspect them.

At 7.30pm, when the cops had left, the drivers started to take out their equipment and reattach it, turning their vehicles into rip-off machines once again.

At 10am on August 15, Tuoi Tre journalists witnessed a dramatic transformation near the New World Hotel on Le Lai Street, District 1: one driver peeled of the logo on the side of the car’s body that said “M.Taxi” and attached a new logo showing “taxi 27-7”.

Now, the logo on the side matched the logo of the light box on the vehicle’s roof. He then drove around Pham Ngu Lao Street.

Easy to get a license

On August 13, a man contacted the 27-7 Tourism Taxi Transport Cooperative in Tan Binh District. This cooperative is a company that leases its brand to individuals who own a car and wish to convert their vehicle into a taxi.

The protocol is simple: a taxi license will be issued on the condition that the car has ownership papers and the driver has a license, promises not to work for any other taxi brands and pays a ‘franchise’ fee of VND200,000 ($10) a month and a licensing fee of VND300,000 per year.

In addition, participants have to pay their own money to have logos printed, pay for a badge, taxi light box, a walkie-talkie and a white shirt.

But according to a cooperative employee, the shirts “are for them [traffic inspectors, police]. Drivers should have white shirts handy in the taxis but normally, it’s better to have a pair of shorts”.

This person also said the company regularly receives complaints about its licensed drivers.
“When complaints are filed, we have to find ways to settle the problem…on the one hand, we telephone the [fleeced] customer to apologize to them, on the other hand, we ask the driver to return the money to the customer”, he added.

The employee continued that “if the fare is VND200,000, it is acceptable to overcharge by several dozens of dong, but any higher than that is problematic”.

According to Ly Tan Tai, deputy head of an inspection team of the Ho Chi Minh City Transport Department, a South Korean tourist recently complained to the Korean Consulate General about a scam by an imitation taxi in which this tourist was forced to pay VND500,000 for a ride from Ben Thanh Market to District 7.

To solve problems like this, Tai’s team has proposed the listing of hotlines for traffic inspectors and traffic police inside taxis, as well as cooperation with other governmental agencies to increase checks at hotels, restaurants, wharfs and other regularly-visited areas.

According to Ta Long Hy, chairman of the Ho Chi Minh City Taxi Association, if taxi scams occur, the management cooperatives that leases out their brands are to blame. He added there are now many transport companies that only sell their logos and brands and do not care at all if their franchised cabbies cheat or not.

Hy added that the loophole lies in the simple registration procedure: anyone can get a taxi license.

Mai Linh taxis commit the most violations

In 2011, security forces at Tan Son Nhat Airport handled over 2,000 cases of taxi violations from 11 companies. Mai Linh taxis committed the most violations with 820 cases, followed by VinaSun (634), Saigon Air (110), and Saigon Tour (102).

The violations include refusing to take passengers walking near the taxi and asking customers to pay more, among others.

Meanwhile, in the first six months of 2012, there were 130 violations in Ho Chi Minh City. Of which, 103 cases involved not having a logo on the vehicles; four cases involved not installing meters or installing them incorrectly; and 11 others involved displaying different paint colors or telephone numbers than those registered.

[yummyymym]

Guys anyone know of any website or program that you can key in a Vietnamese word and it will give you the pronunciation?

[PenguinChaser]

Originally Posted by yummyymym

Guys anyone know of any website or program that you can key in a Vietnamese word and it will give you the pronunciation?

Google Cheng huang feng. Think her website is youyiguan.com.

South Vietnamese who married to Taiwanese and teaching tv in one of the university. She has video that show her teaching tv, from each alphabet pronunciation with the towgay on top and below the alphabet.

[yummyymym]

Chi la 1 tu thay the cho tu kute thoi

Guys this one really don't understand Haha

[ahdiah]

hi bros, i have recently come to know of a viet girl working at a pub with her relative...

however sadly, she was working at the pub when the police came to raid and she was actually caught. Got lockedup for 24hrs and released subsequently, but was issued with a letter to report to ICA on the following working day.

I am just wondering how will this whole process work?

She go to ICA..get a chop to ban her passport...and she has to go back vietnam within the time limit given and she will not be able to come back singapore for a period of time? Is she being barred from entering singapore life-time or is there a banishment period..and then after that she can come back for visiting purpose (because she do have 2 PR relatives here). If so, what kind of trouble would she encounter if she were to make a trip back to sg after her banishment period ?

Thank you for the clarifications !

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ahdiah

She go to ICA..get a chop to ban her passport...and she has to go back vietnam within the time limit given and she will not be able to come back singapore for a period of time? Is she being barred from entering singapore life-time or is there a banishment period..and then after that she can come back for visiting purpose (because she do have 2 PR relatives here). If so, what kind of trouble would she encounter if she were to make a trip back to sg after her banishment period ?

yes...will be asked to go back within 3 days...ban period 2 to 3 years or longer depends...
when she comes back after ban...may need a guarantor before allowing her to come in...

this is wrong thread to post...you can post in ICA..post here...http://samsforum.asia/showthr...179936&page=92

[ahdiah]

ah thanks bro..sorry to bother about this thread. thanks for the help !

[yummyymym]

Would there be anywhere you can key in a Viet word and it will read it out to you? Don't think there is right Lol

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by yummyymym

Would there be anywhere you can key in a Viet word and it will read it out to you? Don't think there is right Lol

there shd be. it wd read BK tv to u.

iphone has an app that let u learn lots of vn vocab. if u use the free version they release one vocab to u daily. if u pay for it u can have it all...

it's called WordPowerLt

[yummyymym]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

there shd be. it wd read BK tv to u.

iphone has an app that let u learn lots of vn vocab. if u use the free version they release one vocab to u daily. if u pay for it u can have it all...

it's called WordPowerLt

Thanks let me try that