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[Ninja_Assassin]

Originally Posted by rahl

Raul wanted to leave too - whatever he says, why else would he hand in a transfer request and we sell him for only 12m?

Why dint LFC take better care of him?
I watched all the Chelsea games since the beginning of the season and they were damn terok. All that changed in the last game where everything clicked for them perfectly. I felt the reason for that was because of Raul. His intelligent and creativity transformed the whole Chelsea team. If he carry on to perform like in the last game, he gonna end up with the BPL Player of the Season award. What a waste for LFC to let him go.

[too_hot]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

This proves Liverpool are still not there yet, Cannot compare to the 2 Manchester clubs.

The manchester clubs got quite a few new players too but they play like a well oiled machine....maybe instead of looking at the players, we should start looking at the coaches....

[rahl]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin

Why dint LFC take better care of him?
I watched all the Chelsea games since the beginning of the season and they were damn terok.

How far do you want to go? Promise him a third more money? Starting place in the team? A longer contract?

Raul played 20 mins against Exeter, 20 mins against Arse, 15 mins against Sunderland and he's the greatest player we don't have?

How many of you complained when we played Bolton off the park without him?

Have some faith in the players we have, guys.

[bochapsing]

"I made the right choice last year to come to England and to come to Liverpool and this year was different because I knew that I didn't want to leave Liverpool.

"I felt that the new owners didn't want to sell me, but when I knew that Chelsea and Andre wanted me, it convinced me."

Meireles added: "It was strange, because I knew of the interest of Chelsea, and the interest of the coach, and it was a pleasure to come to this club but it was strange because it was on the last day.

"The people think that I wanted to leave and it is only because Chelsea wanted me. For Andre to want me, that is why I wanted to go."

we din want to sell him, neither he wanted to go... until Villas-Boas, who he worked under at porto, came knocking at his door...

we all know tat he is a good player, but he's no longer a RED... so let's move on!

by the way, he has played just ONE game for cheski...

[ProfessorOokami]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin

... like in the last game, he gonna end up with the BPL Player of the Season award. ....

Don't worry, we still have Lucas

[rahl]

Originally Posted by bochapsing

"I made the right choice last year to come to England and to come to Liverpool and this year was different because I knew that I didn't want to leave Liverpool.

"I felt that the new owners didn't want to sell me, but when I knew that Chelsea and Andre wanted me, it convinced me."

Meireles added: "It was strange, because I knew of the interest of Chelsea, and the interest of the coach, and it was a pleasure to come to this club but it was strange because it was on the last day.

"The people think that I wanted to leave and it is only because Chelsea wanted me. For Andre to want me, that is why I wanted to go."


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Here is Comolli's side of the story, plus some on AA and others:

We've had lots of fans asking why Raul Meireles was allowed to leave the club to sign for one of our rivals?

I think Raul said it himself with what I've seen recently in the press. Basically, he came to see me and said 'I want to leave, I want to play for another club'. Our intention was not to sell him but we were put in a corner a little bit when he put in a transfer request and said he wanted to go and that he didn't want to play for Liverpool anymore. I think the owners and Kenny have said it, and we all have the same view. When someone doesn't want to be here it's difficult to say 'you are going to stay'. We've been through that process in January with Fernando Torres and this felt like the same situation. We've done it, we think it was the right thing to do for the club, because it's very, very difficult to have somebody here who doesn't want to be here. The job of the manager in the Premier League is already difficult having to manage 25 players and only having 11 to start on a match day, so you have to deal with all the others. On top of that if you have someone who is adamant they don't want to be here and wants to play for someone else, we took the view it's better if he goes and we get the best possible deal for the club. In the end I think we did well.

We've also had a number of supporters wanting to know why Alberto Aquilani was allowed to leave on loan when he had impressed during pre-season?

With him it was more a question of opportunities to play. He's obviously a big player, he's got a very good resume and he's a very good player. But Kenny and the coaching staff felt he would play in a certain position. As I told Alberto during the summer, unfortunately in that position is someone called Steven Gerrard and it would have been difficult for Alberto to play. There were different reasons. There were tactical reasons, the fact he was playing in this position and also we felt it would have been very difficult to keep him here not playing regularly.

I've got to say I was very impressed with the way Alberto behaved throughout the process. He was really an act of class. He only wanted to play football. He was not obsessed about money or anything else and to be fair to him, I was very impressed by his attitude and his personality.

Is it true that we have first refusal on Eden Hazard as part of the loan deal for Joe Cole?

No, it's not true. I've seen those reports, but it's not true. He's a very good player, as everybody knows, but there's no truth in it.

Why have we loaned out Dani Pacheco?

Dani has gone on loan because we want to see him play in the first team somewhere. Last year he went to the Championship and had a good start, then he was sub for a few games, but he did well in those games. We know how well he can do at youth level, he did really well last year in the U19 European championships when Spain lost in the final against France, he did well at the U20 World Cup in Colombia in August, we were there and watched all the games.

The next step is 'can you show us what you can do in the first team?' It would have been difficult for him to play in our first team, and rather than play in the reserves we thought if there is an opportunity for him to go on loan to a good team in a top league, and we can see what he can do and if he can develop, it would be a good opportunity. That's why we took it.

I call it a development loan. Put the player on loan, see how he develops and then that will give us a very strong indication of where his career is going. It's a little bit like Peter Gulacsi, who is on loan at Hull City. We think Peter has got fantastic potential for the future, he's done extremely well with the U21s for Hungary, he captained the team, he played in the Toulon tournament at the end of May against very good teams and he was outstanding, and we felt that this year was important for him for his development.

We will monitor both of them very closely.

[ProfessorOokami]

Many a times, it may not be wise to move to another club just because of greater opportunities to play in the Champions League or what-not's....one has to face unknown pressure, alien team spirit that may takes time to adjust, different manager's temperaments, greater expectations to perform in a shorter time.....etc...just look at Torres who is now in dire straits...and will be a goner if he continues to be in that situation and relationship with his new team mates and manager

Lets see if Raul will be another Torres in the making

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by ProfessorOokami

Lets see if Raul will be another Torres in the making

i doubt so. he worked with AVB in porto before.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ProfessorOokami

Lets see if Raul will be another Torres in the making

Torres could return to Liverpool with a huge drop in salary...

[francined69]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

i doubt so. he worked with AVB in porto before.

I agree. Without AVB, Raul would not have made the move to Chelsea.

[francined69]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Torres could return to Liverpool with a huge drop in salary...

Would Kenny Dalglish and Anfield want Torres back? The answer is NO!

[jj583]

bro,
think you are dam rite!! its about now and the future!! why keep a player who wants to leave Liverpool? Come on guys ... as per Mr Henry mention, we are behind a certain team for years ... the rebuliding process start now!! we will challenge for the TITLE in the near future ... YNWA!! Reds for life!!

[joew2005]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Torres could return to Liverpool with a huge drop in salary...

past is a history,future is a mystery.
who would gamble on a past ... not even the 2 manchester,real or barca.

[omnia]

not just meireles...juan mata looks to be a great purchase as well...sturridge up front also looks to be taking his chances...but no doubt the combo of meireles n mata looks good...may even give torres a new lease of life if he keeps his mouth shut n takes his chances wif drogba still out of action...

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin

Why dint LFC take better care of him?
I watched all the Chelsea games since the beginning of the season and they were damn terok. All that changed in the last game where everything clicked for them perfectly. I felt the reason for that was because of Raul. His intelligent and creativity transformed the whole Chelsea team. If he carry on to perform like in the last game, he gonna end up with the BPL Player of the Season award. What a waste for LFC to let him go.

[omnia]

k tks for the tidbit...i am still not sure abt comolli(becoz of his past) but shall take his explanation at face value...looks like AVB was the turning pt for meireles...anyways wish him n aquilani welll...hope pacheco n gulacsi work out...same applies if hazard is available...

Originally Posted by rahl

Here is Comolli's side of the story, plus some on AA and others:

We've had lots of fans asking why Raul Meireles was allowed to leave the club to sign for one of our rivals?

I think Raul said it himself with what I've seen recently in the press. Basically, he came to see me and said 'I want to leave, I want to play for another club'. Our intention was not to sell him but we were put in a corner a little bit when he put in a transfer request and said he wanted to go and that he didn't want to play for Liverpool anymore.

On top of that if you have someone who is adamant they don't want to be here and wants to play for someone else, we took the view it's better if he goes and we get the best possible deal for the club. In the end I think we did well.

We've also had a number of supporters wanting to know why Alberto Aquilani was allowed to leave on loan when he had impressed during pre-season?

As I told Alberto during the summer, unfortunately in that position is someone called Steven Gerrard and it would have been difficult for Alberto to play. There were different reasons. There were tactical reasons, the fact he was playing in this position and also we felt it would have been very difficult to keep him here not playing regularly.

I've got to say I was very impressed with the way Alberto behaved throughout the process. He was really an act of class. He only wanted to play football. He was not obsessed about money or anything else and to be fair to him, I was very impressed by his attitude and his personality.

Is it true that we have first refusal on Eden Hazard as part of the loan deal for Joe Cole?

No, it's not true. I've seen those reports, but it's not true. He's a very good player, as everybody knows, but there's no truth in it.

Why have we loaned out Dani Pacheco?

Dani has gone on loan because we want to see him play in the first team somewhere.

The next step is 'can you show us what you can do in the first team?' It would have been difficult for him to play in our first team, and rather than play in the reserves we thought if there is an opportunity for him to go on loan to a good team in a top league, and we can see what he can do and if he can develop, it would be a good opportunity. That's why we took it.

I call it a development loan. Put the player on loan, see how he develops and then that will give us a very strong indication of where his career is going. It's a little bit like Peter Gulacsi, who is on loan at Hull City.