German girlfriend: My girlfriend had paid sex with a thai boy

[RainerH]

Sometimes ago I went public with a rather unusual and humiliating experience in Thailand in regard to female sex tourism. During our Thailand holidays my farang German girlfriend actively looked for thai guys and was finally bedded by a young thai lover. I initially intended to find out, to how many other farang (=white) males something similar happened, either if their girlfriends went alone to Thailand or they even travelled even together with their farang boyfriends, like in my case. Some readers doubted my experience at all. It is a “tables are turned” situation in a country, which is by some considered as a sex paradise for male westeners only. Today, I can only conclude that my case is a real rare one, or it happens much more often but the humiliated farang males felt so demeaned, that none ever talks openly about it.
Nevertheless, I still believe that I am probably not they only farang, who had to accept to share his girl with a thai competitor, or otherwise lose her. Therefore I try again to start a discussion on this taboo subject and hope for some more serious and honest replies:
As a student from Germany I visited Thailand together with my girlfriend some years ago for the first time. Claudia and I were together for three years and she never cheated on me nor did I on her. But already during our initial visit I recognized how much she was fascinated by young athletic Thai guys. On the other hand she became extremely jealous when I dared to have a quick look at Thai girls or any other females.
During our second visit she admitted having sexual fantasies about Thai guys, which I had already suspected for some time! Once having ousted her fantasies and when she realized that she rather provoked a depressed reaction on my side than an outrage, I was totally surprised how she kept pushing on with her ''ideas'' with great stubbornness...to let them finally become reality! Only later Claudia admitted that she would not have had dared to ever tell me again her fantasies, would I have reacted outraged. But my reaction obviously boosted her self-confidence to try to let her fantasies come somehow true and not to bury them under feelings of shame and guilt. From day to day she showed more and more openly her interest in Thai men ...obviously interpreting my embarrassing helplessness to cope with the situation as silent consent (...which is was not !). There was less and less hiding of her sexual desires and no more false excuses for me...!
I do not like to reveal all the details, they are embarrassing and I know, a lot of farang and Thai guys will laugh at me. Claudia persuaded me to join her out to some boys bars, ..driven by her desire, but still hesitating. After long lasting and luring eye-contact with young Thai guys, it seemed to me that they quicky understood, what the young farang lady was after but were irritated by my presence. I hated it to see all this youngster queing for Claudia and asked myself, if they are more greedy for her body or our holiday bugdet. Soon we both new that my “escorting her” had became obsolete. She finally became confident enough to roam alone, but always came back early.
It was some days later, when she got a call on her mobile while we were spending the afternoon at our hotel pool at the Golden Palace Hotel, off Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok. She became very exited...and after a while asked me into my face, if I can live with the fact that she intends to date a Thai boy that night, whom she met a night before. I was very jealous but I saw in her eyes how extremely exited she was to date the guy and we both knew well ...tonight it will be for paid sex. I asked her ’Claudia, are you really sure...?!’ She swallowed and nodded silently and said ‘Rainer....it has nothing to do with you....it is simply...’.
She intended to take the Thai boy out for some romantic dinner and then come back to the Golden Palace Hotel. She as well as I felt more secure to let it happen in our place, rather then in some unknown seedy place. At the Golden Palace Hotel we were sure that outward guests are all registered, when staying in a guest’s room. On the one hand Claudia wanted to have her first experience with a young Thai stranger in secure, comfortable and familiar surroundings, but on the other hand, she wanted me to be safely excluded and not to spoil in any way what was meant to be her perfect sex. (Later she admitted that she was at this time very insecure, if I, in the end, would not lose my temper and do something stupid, respectively totally freak out in the hotel floors once after I have realised that she is naked on the sheets with the Thai guy!). Strange enough, instead of my burning jealousy, I simply assured her that I will respect her privacy...probably instinctively sensing that my girlfriend was expecting me to no longer be an obstacle to her very special sexual desire. I surrendered to the inevitable situation and hoped all will be fast forgotten after a one night stand, what will hopefully satisfy her desire for good.
Before she went out that evening Claudia rented a second room on another floor for the remaining time in Bangkok without revealing the room number to me.
Later that night we left together the Golden Palace Hotel, turned from Soi 1 on to the Sukhumvit Road. In a pharmacy near Siam Square Claudia bought the obligatory condoms. A guy at the counter gave us a dirty smile and said in bad English: “You have fun…!” I thought desperately jealous ‘....for some lucky Thai penis!’ We stepped out into the warm air of a busy Bangkok night. She checked again nervously her own room key, and the condoms in her handbag. There was something like a ‘oohh, please understand!’ in her eyes when she hugged me and gave me a hasty kiss. Then we separated. ‘There goes my girl, ‘... to meet her date...,’ I thought.
I sat frustrated in one of the cinema complexes at Siam Square and then spent a poor night in an empty double-bed, not daring to imagine what was happening behind one of the doors on an upper floor. I never asked my girlfriend what she paid for the ‘service’ she received. (Claudia remained silent on those nights and I finally respected her privacy).
After a sleepless night, I went down to the breakfast room and passed by a the reception. The two chinese guys of the night shift saw me approaching stopped immediately talking and were extremly polite to me, but when I just left the reception on to the yard they started giggling and I had the suspicion they were amusing themselves on my expense.
I entered the breakfast room and saw Claudia with her new lover at a table. I will never forget how pleased and satisfied she looked, when our eyes first met incidently. The very attentive thai guy next to her was relatively tall. I remember how his black hair fall over his forehead and covered one of his eyes. The other one was aggressively watching me.
They let me approach, looked at each other, then Claudia and the Thai gave me a humiliating smile and invited me to join breakfast at their table. The young thai was clever enough to immediately exploit my insecurity and weakness, when he touched my girlfriend openly in front of me and watched her enjoying his hand on her naked leg. He managed to shattered the rest of my self-confidence and within hours he suffocated my last resistance. What I hoped to be a forgetable one night stand turned out to become a take over of my girl for the remaining holidays. He made it absolutely clear that he would stay in the ‘driver’s seat’ for the rest of our holidays, having good sex and being paid for it by a farang girl! On the other hand I understood from Claudia that she somehow enjoyed the macho-behaviour of her non-western exotic lover and that the Thai showed no whatsoever respect for the fact that I had been her boyfriend for so many years. Claudia spoke to be for a long time and tried to convince me that it is really only a sex affair with the Thai. She tried to confort me but was also clear that he will bed her exclusively. Eventually I retreated fearing to lose my girl and his aggressivness towards me decreased. The winner takes it all!
Later I assisted Claudia to move her remaining cloth from our room to her new room. The Thai was in the bathroom showering. I saw his and her cloth scattered all over the carpet, the toilette paper on the side table and the bed sheets in total disorder. I remember how I swallowed and until today I imagine how they undressed, how he got on top of her and started thrusting my moaning girl.
It happened all so fast that after the holiday I was emotionally struggling for a long time. After our return Claudia did not cheat on me and proved that she was, after all, only interested in hot sex with a young asian. Occassionally she still sends him some money, but I can live with this.
Today I am still together with Claudia and we have engaged. We are honest enough to each other to accept that she will go out again to look for a suitable partner, if we ever go to Thailand again.
Apart from trying to start a discussion on the subject of female sex tourism in Thailand it is for me important to send this report to all those, who still believe that
1. asian guys are unable to satisfy farang ladies because of their again and again repeated “myth of smaller penis size” ,
2. who still believe that women sexuality is restricted to certain pattern / types. Claudia overcame her shyness...and finally did only that openly, what many girls, housewives, etc. might secretly think: To enjoy a tropical night with a perfect lover with no regrets.
Rainer
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[Northern]

Originally Posted by RainerH

Sometimes ago I went public with a rather unusual and humiliating experience in Thailand in regard to female sex tourism.

When you say public, you really mean public.

You posted the same thing in around 10 similar sites with the earliest date I can see at Jan 9, 2009.

One can only wonder why

[RainerH]

Originally Posted by Northern

When you say public, you really mean public.

You posted the same thing in around 10 similar sites with the earliest date I can see at Jan 9, 2009.

One can only wonder why

I first posted my experience in 2007 with personal thailand (... on recommendation of personal thailand not using our real names to protect our privacy) Due to a mistake later our real names ,Claudia and Rainer, were revealed.
You are absolutely right, I posted my experience many times over a long period of time. I cannot believe that I am ,beside one Swiss guy, the only westener who went through such an experience. So far, as I said above, only a guy from Switzerland admitted that it had happened to him in a similar way and also he had to accept to share his girl with an asian gigolo, whom she met on the beach.
Taking in consideration how many thai gigolos are chasing white girls for sex, fun and of course money, I simply cannot believe that I and the Swiss guy are the ONLY ONES and again and again I try to find more western guys who might be willing to talk about it in public. But I am also interested how asian men think about my experience, taking in consideration that the western media pictures them very often as less male then western guys (small penis myth etc.), which I had to find out is absolute stupid. Hopefully I am not boring anyone, that is not my intention.

[Faidenk]

Originally Posted by Northern

When you say public, you really mean public.

You posted the same thing in around 10 similar sites with the earliest date I can see at Jan 9, 2009.

One can only wonder why

Still it is a confession, so blatantly honest, not easy to make. It would have gutted me, especially when the Thai displayed his 'ownership' in the restaurant and I think I would have blew it there. I doubt I would have continued with the relationship. Samleong is right that women need a reason to have sex, and men just need a place. Men can have a ONS and forget about it right after he discards the condom, while women are usually more complex than that.

I suspect TS's posting if the experience is something of a therapy and perhaps of a closure to the episode, and I wish him well.

As much a monger that I am, it really takes a men's man to really able to take it as much as give it. My hat off to TS.

[outatowner]

i would like to know if u r still together and if so do u see other women too i mean at the end of the day claudia has a right to be happy and if this is wat she wants u cant deny her that on the other hand u need to decide if this is the kind of women u want to be with and while i do not moralize sex u also need to feel a sense of equality in the relationship which sounds like not the case u also have the right to be happy and i cant see how u feel this right now in this situation

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by Faidenk

I suspect TS's posting if the experience is something of a therapy and perhaps of a closure to the episode, and I wish him well.

As much a monger that I am, it really takes a men's man to really able to take it as much as give it. My hat off to TS.

It seems like after 2 years and many attempts to seek closure, our bro is still bothered by it given the relentless pursue of an answer to "am I the only one?".

It's either that "many" others in similar plight are simply not "man" enough to admit they have such a partner, OR it's really just so uncommon. Given the anonymity of these forums, I bet it's the latter, unfortunately.

I believe these attempts to go public is an outlet for TS to remain sane. For how long? We'll see....

[arsenal_84]

if the issue is still bothering you, then you never really get over it.
this issue will continue to resurface if you continue to pen it down.

the key issue is there are many girls around the world, she may not be the one you're looking for.

[Bangster]

Ok ok that Thai guy was me.

I love German pussies!!!

[RainerH]

Originally Posted by Bangster

Ok ok that Thai guy was me.

I love German pussies!!!

Your comment is not really helpful!

[Brera]

Bro. As I'm reading your post I feel sorry for you.. My blood was AT boiling as I was reading it.. Personally what you agreed to her will only encourage her to enjoy herself again.. I dont think you ever to get over the event so you should better move on dude..

[RainerH]

Originally Posted by Brera

Bro. As I'm reading your post I feel sorry for you.. My blood was AT boiling as I was reading it.. Personally what you agreed to her will only encourage her to enjoy herself again.. I dont think you ever to get over the event so you should better move on dude..

Yes my blood was boiling too for a long time. But I will not move on to another girl because I want Claudia although she favourites asian guys for sex and she loves her freedom. We got anyway married early this year.

For nearly all white guys it seems to be their absolute right to go to South-East Asia to fuck the wifes, daughters, sisters of local men. I was a proud white guy with my white clean lady and I admit I thought all the same way. I could simply not imagine that an young asian guy would ever touch my lady! But it happened and moreover she enjoyed it,.....that is why the humiliation is so strong. Like many thai guys Khun was shy in the beginning when dating a white guy's lady. But after she opened her legs for Khun his self confindence boosted. He made me the next morning to nothing more as an castrated underdog right in front of her and proclaimed his 'ownership' over Clauda,...what I finally accepted when I let him become her holiday lover and he lived on our holiday budget. But even Claudia changed as I witnessed. Being normally a very self-confident western women I suspect that she instinctively liked his macho-style what made her even more horny. She let herself deliberately 'owned' by Khun, who mounted her whenever HE wanted and made absolutely clear to ME, to other THAIS and to HER that HE is the only one who beds her.

The humiliation for a white guy like me is so strong that even after years I get extremely jealous. For example I found out that watching fotos of asian penis (see my yahoo group) makes me extremely jealous, not because I am gay, but because again and again I must imagine how such an young asian penis did go again an again deep into the vagina of my wife.

[outatowner]

Originally Posted by RainerH

Yes my blood was boiling too for a long time. But I will not move on to another girl because I want Claudia although she favourites asian guys for sex and she loves her freedom. We got anyway married early this year.

For nearly all white guys it seems to be their absolute right to go to South-East Asia to fuck the wifes, daughters, sisters of local men. I was a proud white guy with my white clean lady and I admit I thought all the same way. I could simply not imagine that an young asian guy would ever touch my lady! But it happened and moreover she enjoyed it,.....that is why the humiliation is so strong. Like many thai guys Khun was shy in the beginning when dating a white guy's lady. But after she opened her legs for Khun his self confindence boosted. He made me the next morning to nothing more as an castrated underdog right in front of her and proclaimed his 'ownership' over Clauda,...what I finally accepted when I let him become her holiday lover and he lived on our holiday budget. But even Claudia changed as I witnessed. Being normally a very self-confident western women I suspect that she instinctively liked his macho-style what made her even more horny. She let herself deliberately 'owned' by Khun, who mounted her whenever HE wanted and made absolutely clear to ME, to other THAIS and to HER that HE is the only one who beds her.

The humiliation for a white guy like me is so strong that even after years I get extremely jealous. For example I found out that watching fotos of asian penis (see my yahoo group) makes me extremely jealous, not because I am gay, but because again and again I must imagine how such an young asian penis did go again an again deep into the vagina of my wife.

ok now u married her thats nuts i did feel sorry a bit when u were just bf and gf but at the end of the day claudia has a right to be happy y dont u get it y do u torture yourself she has the right to be happy let her go she is not a wife she is a woman who goes out and fuks other men get over it and move on go to philippines and fuk bar girls for 2 weeks mate see how u will feel then be a man

[tenggiri]

This is beyond my realm of understanding! How can one stand by and allow his gf to be fucked by another guy! Are you a man? If so, stand up and be counted my friend.

[Brera]

Well... Since u both are married.. I hope both of you best of wishes.. But think you should talk to her about it that it's still huanting you.. It's ain't fair on your side.. At the same time u could pay the gay boy best friend to bed his mom.. Hahaaa.. Maybe it will make u feel better. In the meanwhile since you know what she looks for in sex u could beef up n sex her and be in control!

[hardworking48]

Rainer,

I have to be blunt with you... you are a dick head and softie to let yr girl run right over you and fxxk another guy. IF you had the balls to get aggressive and control yr girl and let her fantasy remained only a fantasy, today you wont be suffering. If it were me, and my girl insist on fxxking another guy to fulfilled her fantasy, I would hv kicked her ass and throw her into Chao Praya River. THATS the MAN she wans to see which she could not see in you.

Sorry I have to be tough to say the above but thats the way I treat my girls,and they simply love my macho demanding ways.

How can you still keep an absolutely unfaithful woman by your side even now??? I cannot comprehend. Good luck to you my friend.