Ever fall in love with a massage girl

[bumblebuzz]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

As married man, we have the extra time when kids grew up. we seldom have the sweet nothing with wifey now. we may be feeling empty for a certain reason.

The reciprocate to our chase and the consistent reply to message is the killer to make us go on and on with the chase.

Just don't ever let it affect the family

Yup agree. Thanks for the advice.
It’s not easy. Sometimes I also tell myself maybe she willing to go further with me than others. But in reality, as long u have money and not bad looking, they will also be ok.

Then what, give more and try to win? Will never win coz as long there’s money to earn, they will be willing. Why subject to be exclusive to one only.. though sometimes I wonder whether they will have any feelings develop or they numb themselves to all these. Can’t be easy either.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by Moshimosh

3k is not the bare minmum to enter this game, i would think around 10 to 15k a mth of income is required. Then u be stress to keep wanting to earn much more in case a richer robert comes along and play the game.

I doubt these ladies lead a high income life in china. They also know this kind of income is short term and wont last ad they age. Most of them are either jobless, come from countyside or just earning 5k rmb (1000 sgd) per mth or below. Things are not rosy as they painted and china economy is definitely not doing good for the common ppl. But girls from countryside are definitely more willing to serve and appears more real to me then those from the big cities.

I'm somewhat out of the commercial scene already, but still lurk around to read interesting things. I can tell you that there are MLs willing to get out for the scene without you having 5k or more income.

There are those who want to get on with life, find them and you can get it. During this time, I know of 2 guys who got ML to become their wife. Guys in their 40s + <S$4,000 income. Both viet MLs they are 35 and 39. The point you need certain income is for you both to survive especially until she work another job.

PRC MLs, maybe still can. I had a PRC ML who just wanted to settle down here, with chance to find other job, but too late. When she return back here to another TCM and contacted me, I already moved on to a relationship. Then she RTC again not long after, she didn't like the ML scene.

You want a ML for wife, you got to have a lot of luck exploring to find these rare ones and put in effort. They won't ask you for much and I haven't spent alot of $ on MLs. Tbh, it was because of them that I found BKK expensive to chiong.

[aristodemus690]

I think things become difficult and complicated when you don't see it as a business transaction anymore and you start to get to know one another on a more personal level.

I found myself reading the past xx pages of this thread to realise that it really is quite difficult to draw this line, especially when as a human being, there are needs (not just physical, but emotional) that are not being met. It's easy to believe that people whom you're paying for services can also meet these needs.

[giggsy_11]

My goodness. Why would SG men meet ML and want them to be their wife.
Pls, want wife go marriage agency.

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

I'm somewhat out of the commercial scene already, but still lurk around to read interesting things. I can tell you that there are MLs willing to get out for the scene without you having 5k or more income.

There are those who want to get on with life, find them and you can get it. During this time, I know of 2 guys who got ML to become their wife. Guys in their 40s + <S$4,000 income. Both viet MLs they are 35 and 39. The point you need certain income is for you both to survive especially until she work another job.

PRC MLs, maybe still can. I had a PRC ML who just wanted to settle down here, with chance to find other job, but too late. When she return back here to another TCM and contacted me, I already moved on to a relationship. Then she RTC again not long after, she didn't like the ML scene.

You want a ML for wife, you got to have a lot of luck exploring to find these rare ones and put in effort. They won't ask you for much and I haven't spent alot of $ on MLs. Tbh, it was because of them that I found BKK expensive to chiong.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by aristodemus690

I think things become difficult and complicated when you don't see it as a business transaction anymore and you start to get to know one another on a more personal level.

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Yes. Its complicated for both party.

Even though we meet almost everyday for meal or tcss outside the shop, I always make it a point to tip her whenever I enter the shop for massage even if no extra service rendered. This is to make it look trasctional. But actually a personal level of helping her.

From her point, she wanted to make it transactional but she unable service me like how she use to, therefore gfe went from 100 to 0. She simply be her true self whenever with me.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by giggsy_11

My goodness. Why would SG men meet ML and want them to be their wife.
Pls, want wife go marriage agency.

marriage agency also not really a place to go to these modern days. Any agency business that survive and booming? Any agency arranged marriage really very fruitful?

Girls went to agency to arrange marriage to transact their 'potential happiness'.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

I can tell you that there are MLs willing to get out for the scene without you having 5k or more income.

There are those who want to get on with life, find them and you can get it. During this time, I know of 2 guys who got ML to become their wife. Guys in their 40s + <S$4,000 income. Both viet MLs they are 35 and 39. The point you need certain income is for you both to survive especially until she work another job.

Yes. There are ML on a look out for potential partner as well. They facing same issue as bro finding good ML to have a relationship. 0.01%

For the 2 guys marrying ML, have their wife gotten PR and move on to another job? I applaud them for their strong emotional control if thier wife still work as ML. i.e. Although the ML i am seeing is truthful where I don't need 2nd guess. Sometime I doubt and check as well. It may not be due to the ML but customer/player trying to tackle the ML


Have their take home salary increase?

As a social volunteer myself as well, I see many cases of man in these income bracket having much difficulty applying PR for their foreign wife. Some man earning lesser than $3k, even having children already, the wife still on ltvp+.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by giggsy_11

My goodness. Why would SG men meet ML and want them to be their wife.
Pls, want wife go marriage agency.

You be surprised with what kind of rare gems ML you can find. At least you spent time with them. The risk is just more than dating locals, but locals can cheat too.

Marriage agency can be worse. You can't try them, then especially if you picked someone who just wants marriage of convenience.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

For the 2 guys marrying ML, have their wife gotten PR and move on to another job? I applaud them for their strong emotional control if thier wife still work as ML. i.e. Although the ML i am seeing is truthful where I don't need 2nd guess. Sometime I doubt and check as well. It may not be due to the ML but customer/player trying to tackle the ML


Have their take home salary increase?

As a social volunteer myself as well, I see many cases of man in these income bracket having much difficulty applying PR for their foreign wife. Some man earning lesser than $3k, even having children already, the wife still on ltvp+.

Those 2? Still on LTVP. Guys salary more than 5k. I think if less than 3k, you maybe stuck LTVP+ for a long time or even get lower chance to get it if no kids.

If my marry my gf, she gonna be on LTVP too. But I got more than that 3k. I heard that's the 1st step.

[sexyback]

Well it is really not necessary to spend so much on ML. I am dating this ML for 5 months already. She knows my backgroundbso she won't expect me to buy her expensive stuffs etc. once every month I will buy her time off to go out then finish off in hotel. Her off days are also reserved for me which we will spend the day in hotel, then go out dinner and grab some drinks with her friends before heading back to hotel for the night. I have never gave her any tips from the day we be together. I will go to her shop (BTW is cat 1 shop) to accompany her (pay for shop this one bobian), then do BGR stuffs in shop etc. Once I got pissed because I read a FR on her, though it's not BJ or FJ, just purely HJ and ZZ of her breast I also cannot tahan liao. I told her how I feel and she sent a long text assuring me I am her only man now all those. Well, I trust her now but not sure how long can I tahan. We have been chatting everyday, even when she has customer will also reply me text which I think is a kind of assurance maybe?

What I want to say is, they can give us assurance but what ever happens inside the shop during their massage session we cannot guarantee nothing will happen.

[bumblebuzz]

Originally Posted by sexyback

Well it is really not necessary to spend so much on ML. I am dating this ML for 5 months already. She knows my backgroundbso she won't expect me to buy her expensive stuffs etc. once every month I will buy her time off to go out then finish off in hotel. Her off days are also reserved for me which we will spend the day in hotel, then go out dinner and grab some drinks with her friends before heading back to hotel for the night. I have never gave her any tips from the day we be together. I will go to her shop (BTW is cat 1 shop) to accompany her (pay for shop this one bobian), then do BGR stuffs in shop etc. Once I got pissed because I read a FR on her, though it's not BJ or FJ, just purely HJ and ZZ of her breast I also cannot tahan liao. I told her how I feel and she sent a long text assuring me I am her only man now all those. Well, I trust her now but not sure how long can I tahan. We have been chatting everyday, even when she has customer will also reply me text which I think is a kind of assurance maybe?

What I want to say is, they can give us assurance but what ever happens inside the shop during their massage session we cannot guarantee nothing will happen.

Actually I was thinking what I want from a ML too. I was thinking something similar to what you have. Go hotel during off days, have some drinks etc. I rather buy her time and go outside than to pay money to the shop, but I think maybe they have targets to meet? Though I haven’t reach your stage yet to be together or anything. Don’t even know if can reach that stage. How to reach your stage? 😅

But if anything is probably to reach your stage. And also reading FRs are never nice but what to do. Is like we know won’t have anything nice or want some reassurance that they never do anything more but we still wanna read it.

End day if someone more good looking or pays more money, I think they may also just go along. Then will just be another chapter in our lives.

[SEX11]

Originally Posted by sexyback

Well it is really not necessary to spend so much on ML. I am dating this ML for 5 months already. She knows my backgroundbso she won't expect me to buy her expensive stuffs etc. once every month I will buy her time off to go out then finish off in hotel. Her off days are also reserved for me which we will spend the day in hotel, then go out dinner and grab some drinks with her friends before heading back to hotel for the night. I have never gave her any tips from the day we be together. I will go to her shop (BTW is cat 1 shop) to accompany her (pay for shop this one bobian), then do BGR stuffs in shop etc. Once I got pissed because I read a FR on her, though it's not BJ or FJ, just purely HJ and ZZ of her breast I also cannot tahan liao. I told her how I feel and she sent a long text assuring me I am her only man now all those. Well, I trust her now but not sure how long can I tahan. We have been chatting everyday, even when she has customer will also reply me text which I think is a kind of assurance maybe?

What I want to say is, they can give us assurance but what ever happens inside the shop during their massage session we cannot guarantee nothing will happen.

As what we saw in porn movie, doing hanky panky stuff while talking on the phone with another party make it more exciting.
Sorry saying something something negative
but it could happen either.
It take total and full trust if you really going for long run
Once you having doubt suggest you just treat her as ML

[sexyback]

Originally Posted by bumblebuzz

Actually I was thinking what I want from a ML too. I was thinking something similar to what you have. Go hotel during off days, have some drinks etc. I rather buy her time and go outside than to pay money to the shop, but I think maybe they have targets to meet? Though I haven’t reach your stage yet to be together or anything. Don’t even know if can reach that stage. How to reach your stage? 😅

But if anything is probably to reach your stage. And also reading FRs are never nice but what to do. Is like we know won’t have anything nice or want some reassurance that they never do anything more but we still wanna read it.

End day if someone more good looking or pays more money, I think they may also just go along. Then will just be another chapter in our lives.

Bro I don't know how to reach my stage leh. She always tells me, alot of her old customers want to bring her out but she never accept, even shows me all the chats. And she say I am probably lucky, only know me for 1 month and fell in love with me. And btw I am not handsome, not fit, not rich also. But she chose me because she say the feeling towards me different.

[sexyback]

Originally Posted by SEX11

As what we saw in porn movie, doing hanky panky stuff while talking on the phone with another party make it more exciting.
Sorry saying something something negative
but it could happen either.
It take total and full trust if you really going for long run
Once you having doubt suggest you just treat her as ML

Yes bro you are right, my last discussion with her about the FR i read, she replied saying I have to trust her because I know her job, and I know too much so I have to understand and trust her. If not without trust it will be very hard for both of us. Also she doesn't provide other services besides HJ which even when customers offer double of the market rates.

[Bilibiliboi]

Power…. But clear water see no evil ba.

If both singles and not cheating. Any relationship will work. Glad to see some fruitful outcome.

Even pay-dating, free-dating or even hitting your friends sister also wont guarantee happy ending.